Investigative journalist Evan Ratliff and host Alex Kantrowitz discuss security risks and impersonation scams enabled by modern voice cloning AI.
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Voice AI Has Passed the Uncanny Valley and Evades Detection
“We're pretty close to someone not being able to detect it at all, and you could say, well, there's an uncanny valley, But I think even now we're up the like back slope of the uncanny valley when it comes to the voice stuff. Like many people will go through a f…”
Insight
Interviewees Are More Candid With AI Agents Than Human Reporters
“When it comes to people asking questions or conversing with ChatGPT, there's a quality of, you don't necessarily feel like there's someone there, and you might be a little more intimate than you would have otherwise. And that can be very valuable in an intervi…”
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Commercial Voice AI Therapists Lack Meaningful Scientific Research Backing
“The thing I can say for sure is they're being introduced without any scientific research showing, I mean, I found one study on voice therapy, one controlled study that had been done, And there are voice therapists on the market right now.”
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Ratliff's AI Bot Disarmed Suspicion by Accusing Humans of Being AI
“It just puts someone off guards, you know, saying, If it asks like, hey, am I talking to an AI? I do it with the scammer sometimes. Hey, is this an AI? And they'll be like, no, this is a real person. But I think it kind of turns your brain around to where, whe…”
Opinion
Many AI Products Solve Niche Executive Issues Irrelevant to Most
“I feel like that use case, to me, it comes with a lot of the issues that a lot of AI products to me come with, which is that they, the people who have designed them generally have one set of problems that do not apply to most humans on the face of this earth.”
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Extended LLM Interactions Expose Generic Predictive Training Over Sentience
“The more that you talk to it, the more generic it feels to you. The more you can actually feel The training data, the sort of, like, distilling down the training data and the predictive aspect. Like, oh, it's trying to predict what a human would say in this gi…”