Dallas Dolen (PwC TMT leader) argues that macroeconomic demand may drive compute prices up, capping the cost-effectiveness of replacing workers with AI agents.
“The number probably goes up if demand's going up, right? Just natural, basic macroeconomics. So if that happens, we're gonna find ourselves in a position where you might be saying, oh, I could replace That person with some level of agentics, but you know, it's actually cheaper to have the person because if this thing runs at 12,000 dollars a month, I might be better off paying somebody to do it.”
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