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Krieger: Data gravity prevents users from switching to 2x better AI apps.

Mike Krieger · Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger · Jun 25, 2026 · at 36:19

Mike Krieger, Anthropic Labs lead and Instagram co-founder, discusses why breakout consumer and productivity AI applications face structural distribution hurdles against incumbent software.

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“Even if somebody has a like two X better AI powered, you know, doc editor, you're going to move all your stuff up. Maybe, probably not.”

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