Guillaume de Saint-Marc

VP of Engineering, Outshift by Cisco · 1 appearance on the record.

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Guillaume de Saint-Marc is the vice president of engineering at Outshift by Cisco. He focuses on multi-agent AI systems, agent swarms, and enterprise governance frameworks.

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Assertion Supported
Saint-Marc: Four core Internet of Agents technologies are live today
“Observability, the connectivity, the identity, and the discovery of agents. All of these technologies are usable today and out there.”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 29:55 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc

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Prediction Not checkable as stated
Saint-Marc: Superintelligence will emerge from multi-agent scaling, not single models
“We had this strong thesis and vision that the intelligence will come not just from building ever smarter and ever bigger and more powerful single agents But more through what we call horizontal scaling. So we distributed systems, a lot of agents coming togethe…”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 3:54 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Saint-Marc: Agentic root cause analysis cut troubleshooting from days to minutes
“Another agent will have, will be like the agent capable of finding troubleshooting, like finding what we call the root cause analysis, you know, doing the root cause analysis of the problem. We had some amazing results on this, literally going from putting exp…”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 22:08 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Insight
De Saint-Marc: Complex enterprise AI missions require self-forming agent reasoning systems
“Workflows are great because they are very deterministic. They can be reassuring at the beginning for enterprise because they can be certified. But if you really want to go after interesting mission, you need this self-forming reasoning aspect where actually at…”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 9:08 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Insight
Saint-Marc: AI agents without agency are useless, but unconstrained agency is dangerous
“An agent with no agency is useless. An agent with you know, too much agency can be dangerous and especially if it goes out of control.”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 14:56 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Insight
Saint-Marc: Agentic AI requires adding Layers 8 and 9 to OSI model
“We've also published a paper extending the Aussie model. So, like this, you know, most engineers will know the seven layers of the Aussie model, the IP stack and the different communication layers, and level seven is really where the world has been living for …”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 16:25 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Saint-Marc: Future Enterprise Agent Swarms Will Be Deeply Heterogeneous
“As complexity is growing, and as we, again, as I said before, we asymptotically start to progress towards something we can call superintelligence, It's going to be very heterogeneous, very different types of agents, different vendors, different clouds, differe…”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 24:58 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Disclosure
Saint-Marc: Cisco Outshift is developing an SLM for Semantic TBAC
“This is stuff that we are going to share soon, but like for the T-back functionality, the semantic teabag. For now, we are using you know, pick your model. So, connect the model you want to actually power the solution. But we are also working on a small langua…”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 25:43 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Disclosure
Saint-Marc: Cisco Outshift expects over 80% of agent tech open-sourced
“Probably more than 80% of what we do needs to be open source because we actually believe in this importance of open and interoperable.”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 29:13 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Assertion Supported
Saint-Marc: Four core Internet of Agents technologies are live today
“Observability, the connectivity, the identity, and the discovery of agents. All of these technologies are usable today and out there.”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 29:55 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Assertion Supported
Saint-Marc: Cisco created Linux Foundation project Agency with Google, Oracle, Dell
“To back all this effort, we've actually created an open source project called Agency. And this, you know, became a Linux Foundation project with the backing of a few large formative members. Google, Oracle Red Hat were with us and Dell as well.”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 5:34 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Assertion Supported
Saint-Marc: Cisco Outshift collaborates with Google on agent identity standards
“We work also very closely with Google on this and the A to A group. We are very active here.”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 12:54 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc
Disclosure
Saint-Marc: Cisco open-sourced a multi-agent SRE system called CAIPE
“We entirely, so in my team, we've actually built our own agentic SRE system. It's a multi-agent system. It's called CAPE, C-A-I-P-E and we've entirely open sourced it with from with a group called Canoe, C-N-O-E”
Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 20:16 How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
How AI Agent Swarms Might Be AI's Next Leap — With Guillaume de Saint-Marc Apr 13, 2026 25m
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