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Q For them to serve. So what's your perspective on this?
A I, I, my guess is it's much simpler than that. These are very smart people who've been in rapidly scaling businesses. And you know, if you're, if you're Sal Maltman or Darryl Amodei or any of that, you're going, wow, I'm sitting on this, I'm sitting on this rocket, you know, this rocket ship and it's kind of taking off. I need people around me. Who understands scale, who can, who can, um, ship products, um, quickly, uh, scale them very quickly and understand how to operate in complex and very fast moving, uh, um, environments. And if you, if you basically take that as your, one of your list of requirements, um, or expectations, then of course people from companies like Meta, you know, feature high up on the, high up on the, on the list. So no, I, I, I wouldn't have thought it's, it's, I wouldn't have thought it's through the, that's my assumption at least, I wouldn't have thought it's through the prism that you've just described, which is one is engagement with commercial upside, the other one is engagement with sort of expensive engagement, because I would have thought at the moment what they're just racing to do, and they're clearly, they're clearly burning a lot of money in order, in pursuit of this objective, is just to, is just to expand and get people using these products. Um, and that in a sense is a bit of a playbook from From Mark Zuckerberg. I mean, you know, Mark, it…
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Q And is it that, is it that the company sees that this application of an AI friend will be so compelling to people that they may spend, want to spend more time with it than their human friends, and that's why they want to go down this route?
A So the conversations I had when I was still working in Silicon Valley, uh, with, with folk in Meta and elsewhere, Um, was interesting because I, you know, I have a, I'm, I'm not a, I've never written a line of code myself. I'm not an engineer. I don't pretend to be. So I, I, I always ask lots of slightly dumbass questions. Um, and I was sort of, I'm old enough and was senior enough just to ask dumbass questions and people would, would bear with me and sort of explain to me. And I would say, so what, what is this friend thing? Like how, how is it a friend? And I was sort of get, I was, I remember being told, No, Nick, just relax. It's kind of like, you know, kids have got, they, they've got deep relationships with their teddy bears, with their pets, with, obviously, with celebrities. People project themselves onto celebrities in an extraordinarily intense way. It's kind of, it's kind of cool that if in the future, you know, you might have, you know, your, the teen might have, uh, seven best friends, and three of them might be human, and four of them might be humanoid, uh, you know, AI, or maybe the ratio's different. And I got, this made me think, because I don't know about you, I, my, I have, I mean, friends are probably more important to me than I think, I think a life which is rich in friendships is one of the, it's one of the greatest sort of defining features of a, a life w…
AI assessment note: “the teen might have, uh, seven best friends, and three of them might be human”