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D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.85
Q And Christoph, what happens to the heat? I mean, the heat is coming out no matter what. So what do data centers do with that heat coming off of the chips?
A There's a lot of heat, um, that's coming out, uh, when, to put it in perspective, um, as well, when a company, uh, is saying we're gonna install one gigabyte, uh, gigawatt of, uh, compute power out there. One gigawatt, well, generates one gigawatt, roughly, of heat. One gigawatt is roughly one nuclear plant. So when a company like one close to us said, so we're going to build eight gigabyte, uh, eight gigawatts of power out there of compute power, it's eight nuclear plants. Well, you need to cool all that to your point. So what do you do with that heat? Um, well, you have a bunch of options. Um, some are good, some are less good. Um, obviously one of them, um, which has the advantage of not using water. Well, you bring it back to the air. So you warm up the atmosphere, uh, to a certain extent, but that doesn't change much from a climate perspective, but you don't use, um, any water. The second one, um, it's to warm water that could be used, um, when you have data centers that are being placed in cities, for instance, which is a new trend, um, that's happening out there. You can use it for district heating or district cooling, depending on the physical process that you're using as well. Well, that heat that's being generated by the data center can heat Homes or heat any process in a plant. And a third one, um, which is something that we working on, it's to reuse that heat to pro…
AI assessment note: “So what do you do with that heat? Um, well, you have a bunch of options.”
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D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60
Q Why do the data centers take so much water and power to operate?
A It's different, um, reasons. So first, um, if we look at, um, the, the, the chips themselves, um, the way the technology works, well, you need power. You need electrons in order to get the system, the logic system work, um, in a chip. And the more of those chips you have, the faster they are, the more data they can ingest, the more power you need, um, to, um, Make them compute, uh, ultimately. So the higher the compute, um, performance of the chip, the more power you need. At the same time, and that's the tricky, uh, component, well, the more heat you generate, you have almost a direct relationship between how much power you use and how much heat you create. So that heat, you need to remove it, because if you don't remove it, well, the chip, It's gonna melt. It's gonna die. Not good things, uh, are gonna happen. And when you cool the chip, well, so far we've been using water to cool those chips through a cooling tower like you have in an air conditioning in a normal building that uses a lot of water.
AI assessment note: “we've been using water to cool those chips through a cooling tower”
Answered raw tape
D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60
Q Talk about that, because the chips perform better when they're cooler?
A It's a big debate, uh, right now, so we've all, um, heard as well, so NVIDIA and others, um, on social medias or in technology publications are saying, okay, we're gonna use chips with much warmer water. It's this, uh, 30 C's to 40 C's to 50 C's, so you need to cool less because you can afford warmer water. I personally I'm not sure that that's gonna stick, because at the same time, we see that when a chip gets cooled further, its performance increases, uh, as well at the same time. So, I'm just thinking, how do we react as humans? Uh, which trade-off are we gonna make? Um, the one that is protecting people in nature, or the one that's giving us the max compute performance, and we'll figure out, uh, The people and planet component later. I've been 30 years in that business, and one thing I've learned is that humans have a tendency to go for performance first and to figure out the problems later. So I would think that in that case, that's probably where we're gonna go, and I see it for a company like Ecolab to find ways to get much cooler environments, so for the chips, while we do it in a way that's using zero. Water because of the closed circuit system that we talked about. So it's a big debate, this one. I think that the cooler chips are going to prevail.
AI assessment note: “we see that when a chip gets cooled further, its performance increases”
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D 5 · C 4 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.55
Q AI technology. And I want to get from your perspective sort of How much demand we're seeing or you're seeing because you're in it, uh, in terms of new data center construction. Like, can you help quantify that for us or give us like a little bit about what you're hearing about? Like, um, you know, there used to be maybe one a year and now there's 50 a year.
A And it's been changing every year. Uh, when we started on that journey, um, right before COVID, uh, it was roughly one data center a year. Uh, that was, um, being built, and today, one a week, and 50% of them are in the United States, 30% are in China, and 20% everywhere else, which is kind of an indication as well, um, where the power, where the train, uh, is going, so from an AI perspective. So that's obviously sort of generating a lot of new power needs, Uh, a lot of new water needs and a lot of new space needs, which is obviously so creating all the community challenges, uh, that we facing. Well, in New York, it's pretty clear, uh, what's happening right now as well. And we can talk about that at the same time. Well, you need to deal with the older data centers. We know from all the chief manufacturers or designers, all the famous names that we're familiar with. Well, they're coming with new generations. Um, every 10 months, roughly now, and every 10 months the power is multiplied by 10, and that's becoming six months, and it's going to be even shorter going forward. Well, you see that those new chips are going to be used in the older data centers to replace the old chips with the new chips. So we're going to have a combination of new data centers with the latest technology, And the latest technology being replaced in the older data centers. Well, well, which means that the…
AI assessment note: “it was roughly one data center a year. Uh, that was, um, being built, and today, one a week”
