synthetic data

8 statements across 6 episodes · 4 bullish · 3 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Apr 22, 2024 by Meta's Generative AI Head · across every show →

Everything said about synthetic data, oldest first

Apr 22, 2024 positive
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Meta leveraged synthetic data during Llama 3 post-training phase
“One of the things that we did with Lama three is in post-training we actually leveraged synthetic data.”
Meta's Generative AI Head Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 11:58 Meta's Generative AI Head: How We Trained Llama 3
May 15, 2024 bearish
Insight
Generating synthetic data could impose a 5x compute tax on model training
“It will make training more expensive because instead of just doing one backward pass, you now potentially have to do many forward passes because at each forward pass, you're going to come up with some output. Then the model has to decide which of those outputs…”
Dwarkesh Patel May 15, 2024 ▶ 23:03 AI Scaling, Alignment, and the Path to Superintelligence — With Dwarkesh Patel
Oct 30, 2024 bullish
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Gomez: Synthetic Data Makes Up a Growing Portion of Cohere's Training
“More and more synthetic data is becoming a huge chunk of the data that we train on.”
Aidan Gomez Oct 30, 2024 ▶ 27:54 The Next Gen AI Models: Reliable, Consistent, Trustworthy — With Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez
Oct 30, 2024 negative
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Gomez: Synthetic data struggles outside verifiable domains like math
“Synthetic data Probably doesn't get us out of that, that issue. I actually, I don't know if synthetic data outside of easily verifiable domains like math, it's hard to use synthetic data to drive outcomes.”
Aidan Gomez Oct 30, 2024 ▶ 26:51 The Next Gen AI Models: Reliable, Consistent, Trustworthy — With Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez
Dec 11, 2024 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: Pure synthetic AI training data has underperformed industry expectations
“One of the things that we've seen over the past few past year in particular is that synthetic data has not worked as well as I think everybody had hoped. You know, pure synthetic data, just using data generated from the models to try to train future models, th…”
Alexandr Wang Dec 11, 2024 ▶ 44:46 AI Predictions for 2025: Geopolitics, Agents, and Data Scaling — With Alexandr Wang
Apr 23, 2025
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Patel: Human labeling is unscalable, forcing reliance on synthetic AI data
“Using humans to train models is just so expensive, right? So then there's the magic of sort of reinforcement learning and other synthetic data technologies, right? Where the model is helping teach the model, right? So you have many models in, in, in a sort of,…”
Dylan Patel Apr 23, 2025 ▶ 18:14 Generative AI 101: Tokens, Pre-training, Fine-tuning, Reasoning — With SemiAnalysis CEO Dylan Patel
Nov 12, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Suleyman: Synthetic Data And Human Feedback Will Outweigh Robotics Data
“I don't think in the next few years it's gonna be the big differentiator. I think that more synthetic data, more human feedback and high quality data is gonna be the differentiator.”
Mustafa Suleyman Nov 12, 2025 ▶ 16:49 Could LLMs Be The Route To Superintelligence? — With Mustafa Suleyman
Nov 12, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Suleyman: AI Training Is Not Data-Constrained Due To Synthetic Data
“We are not data constrained right now, we're generating vast amounts of high quality synthetic data, which is proving to be useful.”
Mustafa Suleyman Nov 12, 2025 ▶ 8:53 Could LLMs Be The Route To Superintelligence? — With Mustafa Suleyman
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