AI training

6 statements across 4 episodes · 2 bullish · 1 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement May 15, 2024 by Dwarkesh Patel · across every show →

Everything said about AI training, oldest first

May 15, 2024 bearish
Insight
Generating synthetic data could impose a 5x compute tax on model training
“It will make training more expensive because instead of just doing one backward pass, you now potentially have to do many forward passes because at each forward pass, you're going to come up with some output. Then the model has to decide which of those outputs…”
Dwarkesh Patel May 15, 2024 ▶ 23:03 AI Scaling, Alignment, and the Path to Superintelligence — With Dwarkesh Patel
May 15, 2024 neutral
Insight
The AI energy bottleneck is local concentration, not total global supply
“The key constraint with energy is not necessarily, is there enough energy in the world, but more so for training, is there enough energy in one place?”
Dwarkesh Patel May 15, 2024 ▶ 19:24 AI Scaling, Alignment, and the Path to Superintelligence — With Dwarkesh Patel
Oct 30, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Gomez: AI Training Costs Are Small Relative to Long-Term Value
“I certainly understand the urge for people to see the numbers being spent on training and be concerned that it's not going to recoup in value, but I think that Those numbers are actually small relative to the long-term value that the technology will deliver.”
Aidan Gomez Oct 30, 2024 ▶ 1:46 The Next Gen AI Models: Reliable, Consistent, Trustworthy — With Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez
Jan 7, 2026
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Venturo: No difference between training and inference infrastructure for modern AI
“So there's really no difference between training infrastructure we deployed to build those capabilities and what our customers are ultimately using to serve them.”
Brian Venturo Jan 7, 2026 ▶ 14:40 Coreweave: AI Bubble Poster Child Or The Next Tech Giant? — With Michael Intrator and Brian Venturo
Jan 7, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Venturo: CoreWeave compute demand has shifted to roughly 50-50 training and inference
“Six months ago, I would have said it was two-thirds training and one-third inference. It's probably close to fifty-fifty now.”
Brian Venturo Jan 7, 2026 ▶ 14:59 Coreweave: AI Bubble Poster Child Or The Next Tech Giant? — With Michael Intrator and Brian Venturo
Aug 12, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Kedrosky: GPU failure rates are much higher in training than inference
“The failure rates of GPUs used so intensively for training purposes are much higher than inference specific usage.”
Paul Kedrosky Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 18:05 Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
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