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Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where ChatGPT comes up
AI deployment
- ▶ 2:02 Benedict Evans Step one was give everybody co-pilot, and that didn't work too well, because it's kind of, or Claude or ChatGPT, because it's kind of like being in 1997 and giving everybody a web browser.
Most people and companies aren't tool-builders
- ▶ 16:01 Benedict Evans Chat to EPT work, and chat to EPT, OpenAI just suddenly replaced everybody's chat with this weird, bungled up, completely chaotic and confused thing called work, and it's like, well, what is this, and why does it work? 2 times in the scene
Token pricing
- ▶ 9:11 Benedict Evans We're like, well, we'll chat GPT, like, capture all the use cases, or will that be hundreds of apps, and will it be an API call inside lots and lots of other apps?
- ▶ 17:44 Benedict Evans I was playing with a new chat GPT work product, which is clearly not that it's a complete disaster.
The spring updates on AI
- ▶ 34:50 Toni Cowan-Brown Which, which again, I love your average, but I love your average point because I am seeing this again on a daily basis in Formula One, where your average content creator or journalist who's just started in F-One is clearly taking their… 4 times in the scene
What jobs are AI jobs?
- ▶ 19:30 Toni Cowan-Brown He's like, have you asked Claude ChatGPT? 2 times in the scene
The end of the network effect
- ▶ 0:21 Benedict Evans And then pushed forward and just about to publish something now about chat, about OpenAI and ChatGPT and how it competes.
- ▶ 11:36 Toni Cowan-Brown I don't see how, but it should be for something like an AI product or an AI, you know, a Claude or a ChatGPT, you would think that users creating value for other users is the, this is the perfect scenario, but when that's not happening.
- ▶ 15:51 Benedict Evans But if you are, you know, the 95% of people who aren't paying for chat GPT, or the 80% of people who are using it only once a week, not every day, every couple of days, not every, only, only using it once a week or every couple of days,…
- ▶ 17:50 Benedict Evans It's ChatGPT, and then it's sort of two-thirds of that to a half of that is Gemini and Meta AI. 2 times in the scene
AI and SaaS
- ▶ 28:27 Toni Cowan-Brown But what's interesting with this that I've noticed is the amount of people who will now call themselves a Formula One tech expert because they are using ChatGPT to help them write a few prompts about a few pieces that they've had, and you… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 31:24 Benedict Evans Um, the question is, what are you doing that isn't just, well, I could get chat CPT to do that.
How does OpenAI compete?
- ▶ 0:21 Benedict Evans I'm trying to work out a way of saying something that isn't just what ChatGPT would say.
- ▶ 6:01 Benedict Evans Because you don't have the mechanic that Microsoft had, and, you know, ChatGP OpenAI showed a chat, talked about Microsoft's ecosystem, but Microsoft had proprietary APIs and proprietary operating system that had a totally dominant install… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 8:15 Benedict Evans Are you going to end up with 30 buttons underneath and it'll look like Microsoft Office and you'll need Clippy to tell you which ChatGPT feature you're supposed to use?
- ▶ 10:40 Toni Cowan-Brown Like, right now people are actively using ChatGPT for dating advice.
- ▶ 14:33 Benedict Evans I, there's an enormous difference between Gemini, 5.1 and 3.1 and chat GPT 2 times in the scene
The AI presentation
- ▶ 9:25 Benedict Evans Well, maybe, but is, is, is, is, is, is ChatGPT the new Netscape?
- ▶ 17:32 Benedict Evans You're just going to use TAT-EBT to do your work. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 19:14 Benedict Evans And then, 10 minutes later, they showed us this diagram of how they're going to build, like, a classic 19 nineties Microsoft-style ecosystem stack, where they've got enabling technology, and there's other enabling technology, and there's…
- ▶ 31:13 Toni Cowan-Brown Um, I, I think I see it on a day to day also working with whatever it's cloud or chat GPT or whatever it is.
A double episode: AI differentiation, and Apple does F1
- ▶ 2:42 Benedict Evans App Store ranking, or Google Trends, or usage data of any kind that you can get, and you see that basically it's ChatGPT, and then none of the others are more than five percent of that. 8 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:47 Benedict Evans This is, you know, you've heard this phrase and the thing, the only actual real thin GPT wrappers are the, the apps from these companies like chat GPT is a thin GPT wrapper.
- ▶ 22:03 Benedict Evans You know, most of what you do in Google is not stuff, in Chrome is not stuff made by Google, whereas everything that you see in, in ChatGPT's app is stuff coming from OpenAI. 3 times in the scene
Looking for AI strategies
- ▶ 3:04 Benedict Evans Like you go to ChatGPT, you go to, um, Anthropoc and what have you. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 5:33 Benedict Evans But it's very difficult to say, why will anastropic beach chat GPT? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:23 Benedict Evans The point is, whatever your use case is for ChatGPT, there's not any particularly obvious reason why you'd be using ChatGPT versus Anthropic versus Meta.ai versus Gemini, and certainly not why you'll stick with it over the next, you know,… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 19:36 Benedict Evans But I'm, I kind of think as a slightly set for point is, that's a different question to, why should I use ChatDBT versus Anthropic?
Ai eats the world
- ▶ 6:10 Benedict Evans Having this conversation with somebody who was sort of around building companies in the nineties and he was saying like, is ChatGPT Netscape or is it the web browser or is it HTML or like. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 28:18 Benedict Evans You can just use ChatGP until you do the invoicing.
- ▶ 28:53 Toni Cowan-Brown Anyway, I went to chat GPT, asked a few things, but what was interesting is chat GPT gave me a couple of really good answers of how I should structure this. 7 times in the scene
Google's Antitrust case
- ▶ 22:16 Benedict Evans And some of this is Siri, and one thing that Siri can now do is it will look at a certain kind of question and respond by saying, hmm, maybe I shall send, do you want me to give that to ChatGPT? 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 27:29 Benedict Evans Does Apple route this to ChatGPT? 5 times in the scene
The AI summer
- ▶ 1:26 Benedict Evans And we, as we've got quite a lot further into deployment, even though this is still only sort of 1819 months old, um, identity of AI is, that is, since ChatGPT 3.5, we're a lot further towards a tangible sense of like where the key… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 11:03 Toni Cowan-Brown I just downloaded the Chat, um, ChatGPT app on my phone for the first time, I realized, a couple of weeks ago.
- ▶ 13:04 Benedict Evans And the top line is basically that in a bunch of developed world countries, something between a third to a half of people have already tried ChatGPT.
- ▶ 23:59 Benedict Evans And I still see, like, waves of this on, on, on social media, of people saying, well, I asked Google this question, and it couldn't tell me, and I asked Anthropic or ChatGPT,
- ▶ 36:58 Benedict Evans You know, that will all get swallowed up by, by ChatGPT. 2 times in the scene
Looking for AI use-cases
- ▶ 0:07 Benedict Evans Oh yes, the, um, there are statistics from the Pew Research Data, otherwise known as the Pew Pew Pew Research Data Research Center, um, on ChatGPT use. 8 times in the scene
- ▶ 2:01 Toni Cowan-Brown You said previously, like, hunting for use cases for ChatGPT.
- ▶ 4:20 Benedict Evans The example I always give is, if you live in Taiwan, and you want to do your taxes, you can do it in software, but with a GUI, but someone needs to have written the software that would do that, and now you could ask ChatGPT, and it could… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 7:16 Toni Cowan-Brown Um, my husband is in that category of, he has ChatGPT open all day, every day, and it is helping him and his team write, you know, new outbound, new outreach, new emails, all of that stuff that you would generally dread if you are not a… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 14:53 Benedict Evans Um, but whatever it is, I can't use JGPT for this. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 20:45 Benedict Evans And yeah, I could go to chat EPT on the web and try that, but it doesn't, it's out of the box. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 24:18 Benedict Evans It's a very, very dystopian vision, but I don't know, I'm kind of exaggerating for a fact, but the point is, I know I don't want to give my accounts payable, post it back office people, chat GPT or Copilot. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 28:59 Benedict Evans Um, 18 months ago, ChatGPT, 3.5 launches, then four, whatever it was, three or four months after that, last spring.
Google Gemini and AI bias
- ▶ 24:50 Benedict Evans And it pushes in a different direction, which is, I mean, there was a, when, when Church APT first launched, there was this sort of flurry of people saying, oh my God, I asked it if it was alive, and it said yes. 2 times in the scene
What's your AI strategy?
- ▶ 5:49 Benedict Evans Like one of the, like the big AI doomers was, was telling me, oh, well, you know, big industrial companies will just replace their accounting departments with chat GPT this summer. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 7:17 Toni Cowan-Brown Most people have barely, you know, have barely used, well, they fiddle around with something like ChatGPT 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 12:07 Benedict Evans Now, there's obviously there's a, there's a chat GPT LLN idea that that will all get abstracted up and that will just get subsumed into a radically smaller amount of software.
- ▶ 15:28 Benedict Evans Um, we're going to have to shift from a cost plus a percentage basis to something else because our customers are not going to pay us to have a bunch of interns sitting around, juniors sitting around stuff that we could do with ChatGPT. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 19:37 Benedict Evans ChatGPT is like a giant job creation scheme for lawyers and consultancies. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 27:55 Benedict Evans Again, that feels like a version one or version step one or step 1.1 use case, but there's an awful lot of the ChatGPT wrappers last autumn were all doing that. 2 times in the scene
AI and Everything Else
- ▶ 7:39 Benedict Evans The way that he phrased it was that he said he'd seen two things that blew his mind, two revolutionary demonstrations, the GUI and ChatGPT. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 19:58 Benedict Evans I personally do not have a task where chat GPT is useful. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 30:52 Benedict Evans I don't think you can just give chat GPT to a law firm and say, here you are, it can write your contracts now.
LLMs, links, and the death of links
- ▶ 11:36 Benedict Evans But I'm going to say one more thing and then stop talking, which is now contrast that with what happens if I go to ChatGPT and say, what should I do in Barcelona next week?
- ▶ 14:48 Benedict Evans It occurred to me that an awful lot of ChatGPT output is, is, is, turns into screenshots. 2 times in the scene
Bundling/Unbundling AI
- ▶ 0:33 Benedict Evans Like, I'll stop monologuing, but the, the sort of, the basic observation is, so here we have this, these, these, these, this ChatGPT, these LLMs, that look like a generalized computing platform, and even if you don't think it's going to go… 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 4:36 Benedict Evans And if you go to ChatGPT now, you'll see they've got like four or six tiles above the prompt giving you suggestions. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 12:04 Benedict Evans Um, and equally, you can use ChatGPT with a bunch of plugins and a text file full of save prompts, or maybe those should be buttons, maybe those should be tools, and that's what all these kind of thin ChatGP, thin ChatGP, thin ChatGPT… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:51 Toni Cowan-Brown Um, do we know as a society, like, would you say that we're aware of how we want to use ChatGPT? 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 30:18 Benedict Evans Um, and so everything, this is a sort of developed computer thesis that everything is basically a thin wrapper on chat GPT. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 35:04 Benedict Evans Like, if you're using, you know, like as a kind of thought experiment, if, if, if, if at the other end of a chatbot was a person, if, if JackGPT was actually not, if it was actually a bunch of real people, then it would always be right,… 2 times in the scene
The magic customer
- ▶ 2:23 Benedict Evans And Kim Kardashian has a private equity fund, which sounds like kind of weird nonsensical statement generated out of chat GPT, but Kim Kardashian has a private equity fund.
- ▶ 31:21 Leonard Brody The, the rise of chat, of chat GPT is a great example of that.
Unbundling ChatGPT
- ▶ 0:07 Benedict Evans Well, it's, it's August, and it's nine months since ChatGPT, 3.5, and I had a sort of a thread on, I don't even know what it's called now. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 3:57 Benedict Evans And I was going to say ChatGPT has that sort of question, which is there's a whole bunch of stuff that theoretically you could ask it to do, but actually you want user interface
- ▶ 5:48 Benedict Evans And, and, and kind of going back to looking at, you know, looking at ChatGPT as Excel, which is kind of, you know, so you can also actually compare it to Twitter, like you've got a blank screen in a box, what do you type? 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 12:01 Benedict Evans It's like, I mean, I often think it's, it's easier to explain what's going on with mid-journey than with chat GPT, because with chat GPT, the lateral language generation is so good that you can't see the model behind it. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 17:28 Toni Cowan-Brown It's interesting you say that because I, I, I genuinely thought that we were going to see way more evolution and much faster with ChatGPT than we were with something like Midjourney.
Vision Pro, two weeks on
- ▶ 0:11 Toni Cowan-Brown I think we're just excited that we have something else to talk about than ChatGPT and AI, aren't we?
Working out AI questions
- ▶ 5:25 Benedict Evans Like, I don't think anybody's asked, like, how does section 2:30 apply to chat GBT?
- ▶ 13:01 Benedict Evans Whereas with Midjourney or ChatGPT, it costs money every time you press go.
- ▶ 16:14 Benedict Evans How big does it need to be to be able to write, answer any question the way ChatGPT is trying to do?
- ▶ 18:05 Benedict Evans And you just don't get, of course, what Bing and ChatGPG have is they've got like a manual filter to catch that.
- ▶ 30:38 Benedict Evans I mean, to me, this is part of the challenge of ChatTPT versus Google is that, um, Google says here are 10 links that might be the answer. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 31:41 Benedict Evans All those kinds of places of how do you jailbreak ChatGPT? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 37:37 Benedict Evans oh my God, have you seen what chat GPT can do?
Buzzfeed News, Reddit and OpenAI
- ▶ 1:41 Benedict Evans But if you ask ChatGPT, tell me about this story that happened yesterday and, you know, in the future, well, this is actually up to date rather than cut off nine months ago. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 10:18 Benedict Evans The, the, the, the, the, the puzzle of, of, of, of, of ChatGPT, um, and sort of many things within this is, you know, Nan, if I go to Instagram and I say, I want to see pictures about this, should I be showing pictures that someone else…
- ▶ 14:47 Toni Cowan-Brown Because I think that's interesting too, of just like, you've gotten this, you know, you chat GPT, you put in a question, you asked it to summarize something, you asked it to explain something to you. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 22:57 Toni Cowan-Brown Also fascinating that all of these questions are coming up for us, and like that piece that we kicked off with, which, you know, Reddit, Twitter, Stack Overflow wants to be paid for the data that's, that's helping, um, the likes of… 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 31:20 Benedict Evans Well, that's kind of what ChatGPT is now. 2 times in the scene
Metaverse and crypto - beyond the BS
- ▶ 1:02 Benedict Evans It is, and I thought, I mean, we'll do next year, next week we'll do generative analog, I'm sure, but I thought it would be, because we can't quite get ChatGPT to do it for us.
AI, copyright and collective knowledge
- ▶ 0:04 Toni Cairn-Brown Last week we closed out our, I've lost track of how many episodes we've now done on GPT, but we closed out our latest episode on AI and ChatGPT four specifically with a desire to spend some time talking a bit about the changes that this is…
- ▶ 8:12 Benedict Evans If I go to ChatGPT and I say, give me three paragraphs describing an imaginary, this is what I did the other day, imaginary, 19 sixties French sports cars.
GPT-4 is here, now what?
- ▶ 3:57 Benedict Evans And although ChatGPT itself isn't that, 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 8:21 Benedict Evans It's like everything in chat GPT with stuff people were already doing, but they kind of packaged it up in a new way. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 11:11 Benedict Evans Which is that you go to ChatGPT three, a couple of months ago, and you would ask it a question, and you would get the phrase with plausible bullshit. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 20:21 Benedict Evans Go to, go to, go to chat to EPT.
The right questions to ask about TikTok
- ▶ 7:18 Benedict Evans China ChatGPT can't even count, um, count to a hundred, because 89 is a banned term.
ChatGPT versus Google
- ▶ 0:55 Benedict Evans ChatGPT is working and has a hundred million users,
- ▶ 4:55 Benedict Evans And it wouldn't be able to answer that unless someone at Amazon had sat down and built cricket scores, whereas ChatGPT says, no, we'll index the entire internet.
- ▶ 6:27 Benedict Evans But if you go to ChatGPT and you ask it a question, it gives you one answer, and it presents that in natural language, which looks, which creates this impression of certainty.
- ▶ 11:36 Toni Cowan-Brown ChatGP, ChatGPT as what you were saying, the first point that you made, that it feels like it's a very good bullshitter, that it's very, it feels like they're giving you a definite answer, it feels like they're very affirmative in the… 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 21:53 Benedict Evans Presume that the chat GPT will be 10% worse than Google.
- ▶ 23:57 Benedict Evans One of them is ChatGPT is frozen in time.
- ▶ 29:42 Benedict Evans And then the third is, like, you know, I thought, we've all kind of gone through waves of playing chat, playing with ChatGPT and playing with Stable Diffusion and Mid Journey.
Generative search
- ▶ 32:26 Toni Cowan-Brown Chat, GPT conversations, or with Avatar, just like, I'm not feeling like I'm spinning my wheels asking for something.
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