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Opinion
Gebbia: Presidential power was entirely sufficient to solve the border crisis
“And lo and behold, you know, we had a lot of excuses in the last administration about why the problem couldn't get solved. Oh, you gotta wait on this, that, and the other. And in the first couple months of the Trump administration, it became very clear that th…”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 4:25 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: Tech workers privately backed my administration work but feared speaking up
“Certain people reached out and said, you know, I'm excited that you're doing this, and I could never really speak up in my company. You know, I kind of always stayed a little bit quiet. Because I couldn't promote my support for this administration. And so a lo…”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 16:53 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: Former peers sent hate mail and cut ties over administration role
“I call them, like, hate mail. It's probably the right way to put it. And so, I don't know, like, hey guys, I'm fixing retirement in the government. Yeah. To make it better for federal employees. Do you really have an issue with that? Like, come on, like, if yo…”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 17:39 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gebbia: Team aims to fix all 27,000 government websites
“Well, some estimates have up to 27,000. And we're fixing all of them.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 31:27 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: TrumpRx.gov will offer Americans access to lowest-cost prescription drugs
“And TrumpRx will be the storefront For Americans to access the lowest cost drugs on the internet.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 33:18 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: The Democratic Party moved too far left to support
“After being a lifelong Democrat, going back to Al Gore in 2000, when I could first vote in college, it was hard for me to identify with the things that they stood for. The things that I remember from previous presidents and previous policymakers on the democra…”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 3:03 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Gebbia: DOGE operates at Silicon Valley speed and ships products
“This is moving at tech speed. This is moving at Silicon Valley speed. And they're actually getting stuff done. They're actually shipping things.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 10:29 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Federal staff completed digital retirement proof-of-concept in four days
“We went off, the careers took this assignment on, and they didn't do it in seven days. They did it in four days. They did it faster than we all thought. It was possible, you know, again, it was a proof of concept prototype.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 15:33 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Gebbia: Marketplaces should prove supply and demand in one city before scaling
“Pick one city and make that city successful. Figure out supply and demand in one market and make that work and then scale that model to the rest of your markets.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 16:01 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Gebbia: Time-and-materials government contracting creates incentives to never finish
“The business model of some of these contracting firms is time and materials. Which means that your business model is to never finish.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 23:23 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: The federal design team has shipped safedc.gov and trumpcard.gov
“We've already shipped a couple things already. People can see some of our initial work on safe DC.gov, which is a new website to help attract law enforcement talent to come join the task force here in DC. We shipped trumpcard.gov, which is- Trump card.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 31:53 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Some U.S. government websites turn off at 6 PM daily
“Government websites, some of them turn off at six p.m. Because they have operating hours.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 34:29 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Partly supported
Gebbia: The White House ballroom project is completely privately funded
“And by the way, doing it without costing taxpayers a dime. This is all privately funded.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 36:54 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Nuclear power is one of the safest energy sources
“The technology's proven itself over 50, 60 plus years. It's safe, it's one of the safest forms of energy. People don't realize this. It's actually one of the safest forms of energy.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 37:11 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: 70% of Americans across all age groups have chronic disease
“You know, 70% of people have chronic disease. It's kind of insane. You know, at all, all age ranges. And it's like, we spend the most on healthcare, yet we have the most disease.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 8:43 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Partly supported
Gebbia: Over 70,000 federal retirees are in the new digital pipeline
“And on August first, we flicked the switch. All new retirements were required to go through our software. And now we've got upwards of 70,000 retirees in the pipeline.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 21:21 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Contradicted
Gebbia: Federal retirement application time cut from dozens of hours to minutes
“And the process that a retiree spends themselves, or an employee, went from, you know, Dozens of hours to six minutes or less.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 21:35 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Former DOGE staff took full-time roles inside federal agencies
“Some people have taken full-time roles within different agencies and have brought the spirit of Doge into those agencies.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 22:23 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Gebbia: Recreation.gov leaves much to be desired and undersells national parks
“It looks like one of our competitor sites from maybe, you know, it's, there's a lot to be desired for. When you have, like, this incredible feature of the American experience, international parks. They were being undersold in the way that they were showcased.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 24:49 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Airbnb faced $1.5 billion in refund requests over two weeks in 2020
“We realized That we had about a billion and a half dollars of refunds to make in about a couple of weeks.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 22:13 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Airbnb has collected over $5B in municipal hotel taxes
“We implemented transient oxypeed tax or hotel tax which since we've launched that, we've I believe it's over five billion dollars”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 27:06 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Open · timeframe Apr 2028
Gebbia: Small modular reactors can reuse existing nuclear waste as fuel
“Small modular reactors which will address some of the issues of the costs involved in building nuclear plants, the timelines associated with building nuclear plants. Small modular actors can actually reuse existing nuclear waste as their energy source.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 37:41 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Gebbia: Oklo and NuScale lead the deployment of carbon-free nuclear power
“So I'm super excited about Oclo and new scale and many of the others that are at the forefront of helping us create clean carbon-free energy at scale.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 38:12 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Federal retirees previously waited months to learn their monthly annuity payment
“The way it worked previously is you didn't find out how much you're going to make every month for the rest of your life until your first check, check arrived months later.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 19:25 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Estimates show upwards of 27,000 .gov websites exist
“We have upwards of some estimates say 27,000 dot gov websites that some look like they're from the mid nineties with regards to their interface design.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 28:51 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Gebbia: Modernizing federal websites is his hardest challenge since Airbnb
“Like, I think this is one of the hardest challenges I've ever faced. Besides how do you get a stranger to stay in a stranger's home? This is like the next biggest challenge. How do you upgrade a whole web of outdated digital experiences for the American people…”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 37:37 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: Samara spun out of Airbnb as an independent company
“And it's actually started as an innovation team inside Airbnb. We spun it out late last year brought in a co-founder, Mike McNamara, and we started an independent company.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 1:24 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: California ADU permit applications surged 17x after 2016 law
“California passed a law in 2016 that basically makes it a right for somebody to have an ADU in their backyard, and since that law passed, permit applications have increased 17 x in the state of California. Eight other states have also copied California's laws.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 4:57 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: Told Brian Chesky in college they'd build a book-worthy company
“Over the pizza, I looked him in the eyes, I said, Brian, there's something I have to tell you. I think we're gonna start a company one day, and they're gonna write a book about it.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 15:08 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: Airbnb was intended as a one-off weekend project, not a company
“This instance of trying something was meant to be a weekend, never meant to be a company, but it gave us the basis for what became the next iteration.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 19:39 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Gebbia: Airbnb began filing to go public in December 2019
“In December of 2019, we started the paperwork process to file to go public.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 21:32 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Airbnb funded a $250 million relief fund for hosts during COVID-19
“For our hosts, we came up with a relief fund to help put some money back into their pockets. That was two hundred fifty million dollars. Out of our pocket.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 23:17 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Airbnb laid off about 25% of its workforce during COVID-19
“For our employees we did have to go through a riff, laid off about 25% of our workforce.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 23:26 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Gebbia: Airbnb raised about $2 billion in emergency debt during COVID-19
“For our investors, we took out about two billion dollars in debt just to make sure we had money in the bank, because no one knew how long this was gonna go on for.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 24:09 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gebbia: Parents Faced Three Break-In Attempts in San Francisco
“My parents' home had three break-in attempts in a very short amount of time.”
Joe Gebbia Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 5:29 The Secret Team Fixing America's Broken Systems · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gebbia: Google's YouTube acquisition sparked San Francisco's 2006 tech resurgence
“YouTube had just been acquired by Google. The internet was sort of buzzing again. It was one of the most exciting times to be in the city.”
Joe Gebbia Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 15:28 Ep 53: Joe Gebbia Changed the World with Airbnb. Here's What He's Building Next. · Joe Lonsdale
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