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Parker-Holder: World models are the fastest path to embodied AGI
“I still think, honestly, for my, what I'm excited about for AGI, and which is more embodied agents I really believe this is the fastest path to getting these agents, like, in the real world”
Parker-Holder: DeepMind targeted minute-plus spatial memory for Genie 3
“And then for Genie three, we basically went much more ambitious on the same sort of approach, right? And we made it like a headline goal for ourselves. It's like, can we make the memory be what it is, right? We said we want minute plus memory and real time and…”
Parker-Holder: Genie 3 terrain physics emerge from scale, not explicit logic
“And I think that that really is the property of scale and breadth of training. So this is very much like an emergent thing. I don't think there's anything Like really specific we do for this, right?”
Parker-Holder: Genie 3 combines real-world data with simulation for robotics
“Really what we think with Genie three is it's the best of both, right? Because you're taking a real world data driven approach, right? But then you've got the ability to learn in simulation. So It kind of combines the good parts of each of those. And so that's…”
Parker-Holder: Genie 3 outputs look real to non-expert viewers
“And it, it's at the point where, like, a human who is not an expert, like, will watch it and think it looks real, right?”
Parker-Holder: DeepMind kept Veo 3 and Genie 3 as separate projects
“We obviously made a choice that we want VO three and Gini three to be separate projects this year, right?”
Parker-Holder: Genie 3 is an environment simulator, not an autonomous agent
“We designed it to be an environment rather than an agent, right? So Genie three is very much like an environment model. Like we don't see it as like an agent itself that can like think and act in the world. It's more just a general purpose sort of simulator in…”
Parker-Holder: Top robotics simulators still face significant sim-to-real gaps
“The robotic simulations are even the best ones, and we have some of the best ones at DeepMind and Majoko, right, which we work with. They're still quite far away from the real world, right? And so you have the sim to real gap.”
Parker-Holder: Genie 2 suffered transfer issues from image prompting
“So I think that that's actually a really important capability that we didn't have with Genie too as well, right? Because we relied on image prompting. And so, there was some transfer issue, like, where you rely on imagine to generate the image, and that often …”
Parker-Holder: Veo 3 achieves higher visual quality than Genie 3
“VO three is clearly a higher quality threshold than Gene three, right?”
Parker-Holder: Veo 2 launched one week after Genie 2
“So we had this Genie II project that was much more sort of like, three environments that it could generate, and it wasn't super high quality. It felt like it coming from Genie I, but it wasn't the same quality as things like VO II, which you know, the Saints o…”