Hayes: Automated spam inevitably follows wherever attention aggregates
Chris Hayes · AI Content and the War for Your Attention · Jul 30, 2025 · at 2:19
MSNBC host Chris Hayes explains the core economic incentives driving attention pollution and digital content spam.
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“Where attention pulls and collects, there will be money. And to the extent that you can cheaply automate the extraction of that attention, even if it's done in a sort of, like, brute force, wasteful way, there's gonna be spam, right?”
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