Mark Cuban

Co-founder, Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company · 2 appearances on the record.

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He accumulated his initial fortune by selling Broadcast.com to Yahoo! in 1999 before becoming the owner of the Dallas Mavericks and an investor on Shark Tank. He currently focuses on lowering prescription medication costs through Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company.

57statements → 33claims → 13claims resolved → 62%fully supported → 4.19/5average certainty → 2.58/5average debate potential → 3said about them ↓

8 supported 3 partly supported 2 contradicted 4 not yet assessed 16 not checkable as stated how the 33 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

8 predictions · 25 assertions · 10 opinions · 2 insights · 10 disclosures · 2 what ifs · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 33 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 13 are resolved, 4 are not yet assessed, and 16 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Mark argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Cuban: PBMs exclude $700 biosimilar Usimri to protect drug margin revenues
“Humira is about 8000 dollars a month. Six to 8000 dollars a month. USIMRI is about 700 dollars a month. But they won't add USIMRI to their formularies because they don't want to use the revenue in the margin.”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 10:33 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Mark Cuban says Cost Plus Drugs is the only pharmacy publishing prices
“Costplusdrugs.com is still the only pharmacy company that publishes an entire price list.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 26:57 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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How they sound: speaking style how? →

273 words/min while actually speaking · 10 um and uh per 1k words · 8.7 false starts per 1k · 24.8% of pauses land inside a clause

No argument clarity score for Mark Cuban: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 13,816 words across 2 episodes of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Mark Cuban said on the a16z Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Mark Cuban calls Zohran Mamdani a progressive Trump who lies to voters
“He learned from Trump. He's the progressive Trump. Just lie. You know, Day one, groceries are going to be cheaper. I'll just, I'll open the grocery store because I'll sound more progressive that way, right? Day one, buses are free. And then everything else, he…”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 14:35 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Opinion
Mark Cuban says research hospitals are idiots to publish or patent IP
“Because if I'm MD Anderson, if I'm Stanford, any research hospital, any scientist in healthcare, you're an idiot if you publish it. You're an idiot if you patent it. Because it's immediately going to get absorbed into a large language model. And you've lost co…”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 19:49 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Opinion
Mark Cuban says Pharmacy Benefit Managers are the core problem in healthcare
“You know, everybody, Amazon, everybody else. Okay. We're going to work with the big PBMs. Cause that's where the money is. And I'm like, no, they're the problem.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 35:16 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Opinion
Mark Cuban says only Steph Curry and LeBron James are arena draws
“There's only like two players that fill an arena. Steph and LeBron.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 38:58 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mark Cuban says a 15% tariff would wipe out small business margins
“You increase, you know, from a two and a half percent average tariff to a 15% tariff, that's their profit margin, and it's gone.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 55:13 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Supported
Cuban: PBMs exclude $700 biosimilar Usimri to protect drug margin revenues
“Humira is about 8000 dollars a month. Six to 8000 dollars a month. USIMRI is about 700 dollars a month. But they won't add USIMRI to their formularies because they don't want to use the revenue in the margin.”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 10:33 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban
Assertion Supported
Cuban: Big three PBMs pay independent pharmacies $0.50 for $12 scripts
“If you're dealing with one of those big three PBMs, it cost an independent pharmacy probably 12 dollars, give or take, on the location to fill a script. They're paying them 50 cents”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 16:07 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban
Disclosure
Cuban: I refuse to hire Harvard grads, preferring state school talent
“I don't. Give me Texas Tech and UC. Indiana, right?”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 21:26 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban
Opinion
Mark Cuban says Trump mastered algorithms while Democrats lack effective salespeople
“What Trump has done well is learn how to flood the zone so that no matter what that algorithm finds for you, he's gonna find a way to you. Whether it's a positive or negative and then you look at Kamala and Brat Summer and, you know, fell off a coconut tree. S…”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 4:24 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mark Cuban says Grok works well except on Elon Musk's pet topics
“If you go on X and you use Grok, it almost always, unless it's something that Elon is, is individually interested in, it comes up with a legitimate answer.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 7:55 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Partly supported
Mark Cuban claims ESOP participants earn dramatically more than union workers
“What's the earnings of people who are in ESOPs? Employee stock ownership plan versus everybody else. It's dramatically higher. It's not even close. They make more than union employees.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 13:19 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mark Cuban predicts millions of specialized AI models will exist
“It will change because there'll be millions of models as opposed to just singular foundational models.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 20:57 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mark Cuban says Cost Plus Drugs beats many Medicare Part D copays
“People who are on Medicare Part D for drugs come to Cost Plus Drugs because we're cheaper than their co-pays.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 22:32 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Supported
Mark Cuban claims a major health insurer did $161B in intercompany transfers
“One of the biggest insurance companies had a 161 billion dollars of intercompany transfers.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 26:13 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Contradicted
Mark Cuban says Cost Plus Drugs is the only pharmacy publishing prices
“Costplusdrugs.com is still the only pharmacy company that publishes an entire price list.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 26:57 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mark Cuban says NBA streaming results will make or break sports media
“So this season, right, starting with the NBA season, how well that does in terms of driving subscriptions and reducing churn, that's going to make or break everything that comes forward for all sports.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 38:09 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mark Cuban predicts patient draft strategies will dominate NBA under new CBA
“I think the Thunder methodology is better now. With the new CBA. Every new CBA creates transitional issues. Where your decisions were made in a legacy environment and they just changed all the rules. And now it's even more difficult with the second apron. Beca…”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 40:48 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Insight
Mark Cuban says generational NBA players are inherently undervalued by max contracts
“That, if you have your one generational player, you pay them whatever it takes. Because of the max contracts, they by definition are undervalued.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 42:40 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2030
Mark Cuban predicts net total jobs will not decrease due to AI
“And they, and that's, you know, going back to what I said earlier, there will be disintermediation, but I don't think the net number of jobs is going to decrease.”
Mark Cuban Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 56:47 Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cuban saved 78% on a hospital bill by paying cash instead of insurance
“The insurance costs that they were gonna charge me, my insurance company that my employee benefits person supposedly had just negotiated a great rate, only a small increase, right, was gonna charge me 2200 dollars by paying with a credit card, it was 475.”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 6:12 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cuban negotiates healthcare rates at 80-100% of Medicare versus insurance's 250-275%
“Now the typical network price negotiated by the big insurance companies is 275%, 250 to 275% of Medicare, Medicare rates. Price we're negotiating right now, 80 to a hundred percent of Medicare.”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 8:04 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban
Disclosure
Cost Plus Drugs captures 17% of cash mail-order market with $0 ad spend
“We think we have 17% at cost plus, 17% of the cash mail order market, and that's, you know, how much we've spent on marketing and advertising? Zero.”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 8:51 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cuban: Corporate PBM rebates are subsidized by oldest and sickest employees
“Your oldest and sickest employees. Because they're the ones that have the co-pays, and they're the ones that use, that have the most chronic illnesses, and they're the ones that are subsidizing all those rebates.”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 11:23 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban
What-if
Cuban: Five Fortune 50 companies leaving major PBMs would force immediate systemic reform
“If five of the Fortune 50 companies walked away from the big three insurance companies and the big three PBMs, they'd have to change their business models, and immediately, immediately the entire healthcare system would change.”
Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 ▶ 13:04 Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Mark Cuban on the NBA, Cost Plus Drugs, and How to Fix Politics Sep 9, 2025 44m
Sharks Never Stop Swimming: A Conversation with Mark Cuban Mar 5, 2024 17m
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