Jul 15, 2017 · 22m · a16z

Trends in and the Future of Infrastructure

Martin Casado · 21m spoken
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In this Andreessen Horowitz presentation, General Partner Martin Casado argues that enterprise infrastructure is entering a golden renaissance driven by software abstraction, managed cloud services, and developer purchasing power. He details how these three confluent trends enable technical startups to bypass incumbent moats and capture massive value across the $4 trillion global IT market.

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The host as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 0.0 Guest disagreement 0.2 The host pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:0020:001:25–3:42 · The host as informed peer 0/10 IT Market Disruption and Epochal Shifts Martín delivers a solo presentation arguing against the prevailing Silicon Valley narrative that infrastructure is dying. The host remains silent throughout this segment.3:42–12:23 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Overview of the Three Confluent Trends Martín explains the shift from hardware to software-defined infrastructure, citing Waze and his own startup Nicira as examples. The host does not speak.12:23–19:19 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Trend 2: Software to Services Martín covers the movement from software to services and the emergence of developers as a buying center. The host utters a brief 'Okay' at 14:18 but offers no substantive commentary.19:19–22:18 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Developer Sales Mechanics and Virtuous Cycle Martín outlines developer sales mechanics and the distinction between developer influence and enterprise sales. The host remains entirely silent.22:18–22:58 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Conclusion: No Silo Is Safe Martín concludes his presentation by declaring that no infrastructure silo is safe from disruption. The host provides no closing remarks in this audio clip.1:25–3:42 · Guest teaching 0/10 IT Market Disruption and Epochal Shifts Martín delivers a solo presentation arguing against the prevailing Silicon Valley narrative that infrastructure is dying. The host remains silent throughout this segment.3:42–12:23 · Guest teaching 0/10 Overview of the Three Confluent Trends Martín explains the shift from hardware to software-defined infrastructure, citing Waze and his own startup Nicira as examples. The host does not speak.12:23–19:19 · Guest teaching 0/10 Trend 2: Software to Services Martín covers the movement from software to services and the emergence of developers as a buying center. The host utters a brief 'Okay' at 14:18 but offers no substantive commentary.19:19–22:18 · Guest teaching 0/10 Developer Sales Mechanics and Virtuous Cycle Martín outlines developer sales mechanics and the distinction between developer influence and enterprise sales. The host remains entirely silent.22:18–22:58 · Guest teaching 0/10 Conclusion: No Silo Is Safe Martín concludes his presentation by declaring that no infrastructure silo is safe from disruption. The host provides no closing remarks in this audio clip.1:25–3:42 · Guest disagreement 1/10 IT Market Disruption and Epochal Shifts Martín delivers a solo presentation arguing against the prevailing Silicon Valley narrative that infrastructure is dying. The host remains silent throughout this segment.3:42–12:23 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Overview of the Three Confluent Trends Martín explains the shift from hardware to software-defined infrastructure, citing Waze and his own startup Nicira as examples. The host does not speak.12:23–19:19 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Trend 2: Software to Services Martín covers the movement from software to services and the emergence of developers as a buying center. The host utters a brief 'Okay' at 14:18 but offers no substantive commentary.19:19–22:18 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Developer Sales Mechanics and Virtuous Cycle Martín outlines developer sales mechanics and the distinction between developer influence and enterprise sales. The host remains entirely silent.22:18–22:58 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Conclusion: No Silo Is Safe Martín concludes his presentation by declaring that no infrastructure silo is safe from disruption. The host provides no closing remarks in this audio clip.1:25–3:42 · The host pushing back 0/10 IT Market Disruption and Epochal Shifts Martín delivers a solo presentation arguing against the prevailing Silicon Valley narrative that infrastructure is dying. The host remains silent throughout this segment.3:42–12:23 · The host pushing back 0/10 Overview of the Three Confluent Trends Martín explains the shift from hardware to software-defined infrastructure, citing Waze and his own startup Nicira as examples. The host does not speak.12:23–19:19 · The host pushing back 0/10 Trend 2: Software to Services Martín covers the movement from software to services and the emergence of developers as a buying center. The host utters a brief 'Okay' at 14:18 but offers no substantive commentary.19:19–22:18 · The host pushing back 0/10 Developer Sales Mechanics and Virtuous Cycle Martín outlines developer sales mechanics and the distinction between developer influence and enterprise sales. The host remains entirely silent.22:18–22:58 · The host pushing back 0/10 Conclusion: No Silo Is Safe Martín concludes his presentation by declaring that no infrastructure silo is safe from disruption. The host provides no closing remarks in this audio clip.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 1:40 Challenging industry consensus

Martín forcefully pushes back against the common Silicon Valley view that infrastructure is an armpit, stating this view couldn't be more wrong.

Hardest push from the host ▶ 14:17 Host minimal acknowledgment

The host provides no pushback during this presentation, offering only a brief 'Okay' transition.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 7:10 Proving investor assumptions wrong

Martín describes educating a Sand Hill Road investor who believed software couldn't replace hardware appliances, proving him wrong by scaling Nicira to a $600M run rate.

The host holds their own ▶ 14:17 Host silent format

The host does not assert technical expertise or counterarguments in this presentation-style audio clip.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe host as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe host pushing backWhy
IT Market Disruption and Epochal Shifts 0010 Martín delivers a solo presentation arguing against the prevailing Silicon Valley narrative that infrastructure is dying. The host remains silent throughout this segment.
Overview of the Three Confluent Trends 0000 Martín explains the shift from hardware to software-defined infrastructure, citing Waze and his own startup Nicira as examples. The host does not speak.
Trend 2: Software to Services 0000 Martín covers the movement from software to services and the emergence of developers as a buying center. The host utters a brief 'Okay' at 14:18 but offers no substantive commentary.
Developer Sales Mechanics and Virtuous Cycle 0000 Martín outlines developer sales mechanics and the distinction between developer influence and enterprise sales. The host remains entirely silent.
Conclusion: No Silo Is Safe 0000 Martín concludes his presentation by declaring that no infrastructure silo is safe from disruption. The host provides no closing remarks in this audio clip.

Statements from this episode (13)

Assertion Partly supported
Casado: IBM has posted multiple consecutive quarters of losses
“IBM has posted a lot of quarter on quarter losses.”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 0:33
Opinion
Casado: Startups have an unfair advantage in new infrastructure era
“This new era, this golden era of infrastructure that we're moving into and why I think it is Bias towards new startups, which I believe actually have an unfair advantage.”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 1:11
Assertion Partly supported
Casado: Cloud and SaaS represent only 6% of global IT spending
“Cloud, if you look at it is something like if you take SAS and public cloud is maybe, you know, 220 to two hundred and forty billion dollar market. So relative to the four trillion dollar market, we're only about six percent of the way there.”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 1:41
Insight
Casado: Tech incumbents rarely survive transitions to new computing epochs
“The second thing that happens in every time that you have one of these epochs is the existing incumbents from a previous era very rarely make it to the new one, right?”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 2:51
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Casado: Three macro trends are driving enterprise infrastructure disruption
“Okay, so I'm going to be talking about broadly three trends that are causing the disruption and creating a lot of the dynamic. And this is the move from hardware to software, the move from software to services, and the rise of developer.”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 3:43
Assertion Supported
Casado: Waze grew to 50M users on $70M before $1B Google acquisition
“Waze started in about, I think it was 2007, and it went through three rounds of funding, probably got seventy million dollars in total, and within five years, It had a mass, I think, fifty million users and was sold to Google for a billion dollars.”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 5:06
Disclosure
Casado: Nicira built a $1B company on just $40M in funding
“What we were able to do over the next, you know, five years and only forty million dollars in funding was to build a billion dollar company. Who, you know, I'd say six months prior to this recording, that product that we built all in software was at a six hund…”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 9:13
Insight
Casado: Go-to-market is the hardest challenge for enterprise tech startups
“Unfortunately, the most difficult thing with starting a company in the enterprise space is actually bringing whatever you're building to market. And the reason is, is the incumbents have pretty much the entire go to market side locked up all aspects of it.”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 16:05
Insight
Casado: Developer budget influence is the most significant enterprise shift
“So developers having control or influence over budget changes all of this. And I think this is probably of all of the things that I'm speaking of the most significant and the most significant shift”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 17:47
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Casado: Legacy incumbent enterprise sales machines are becoming obsolete
“The old go-to-market machines that the incumbents have relied on for so long are starting to become obviated.”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 19:13
Insight
Casado: Developer adoption replaces marketing, but startups still need enterprise sales
“Developers influence budget. They often don't control a lot of budget. And so you can almost think of attracting the developer and getting them to use your product almost like a replacement for product marketing. It's like the top of the funnel. So you can get…”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 19:42
Disclosure
Casado: a16z strategy pairs technical founders with direct sales engines
“And, you know, this actually aligns with the philosophy of the firm here at Andreessen Horowitz. Our focus has largely been looking for the technical phenomenon, the technical founder, And then building around kind of a strong go-to-market engine and go-to-mar…”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 20:23
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Casado: Trillions in enterprise infrastructure market cap will be disrupted
“I don't think that there's any silo in infrastructure that's safe from this. I think we're talking trillions of dollars of market cap and hundreds of billions of dollars of value that are going to be disrupted. I think this is going to usher an entirely new er…”
Martín Casado Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 22:27
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