Jul 16, 2017 · 20m · a16z

How 'Going Direct' Changes Everything: for Brands, Retail, Marketing, and Advertising

Jeff Jordan · 17m spoken
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In this Andreessen Horowitz presentation, Jeff Jordan outlines Direct Response 2.0, explaining how modern digital platforms empower brands to bypass corporate intermediaries, eliminate wasteful ad spend, and establish direct, data-driven relationships with consumers.

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The host as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 3.4 Guest disagreement 0.3 The host pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:0020:000:19–2:22 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Retail Landscape Twenty Years Ago The presenter opens with a monologue explaining the historical walls between brands and consumers created by retailers and mass media. The host does not interject or participate, keeping host-side metrics at zero.2:22–6:40 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Retail Today and Three Direct Response Trends The speaker delivers a detailed case study on crowdfunding and pre-orders, highlighting Tesla's 300,000 Model 3 pre-orders. The host remains completely silent throughout the segment.6:40–11:35 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Benefits of Social Commerce and Betabrand Case Study The presenter analyzes Betabrand's community voting model and the steep drop in traditional TV viewership among millennials. A slight tone of criticism is directed at traditional media ad spend efficiency.11:35–13:45 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Case Study: Instacart and Targeted Marketing The speaker explains Instacart's data advantage over traditional grocery chains for targeted marketing. The presentation format continues without host interaction.13:45–16:16 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Theme Three: Experiential Shopping and Search Funnel The presenter critiques bottom-of-funnel ad spending on Google and Amazon, arguing it leads to price compression and margin loss. The critique is focused on ad platforms rather than any host dynamic.16:16–18:44 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Top-of-Funnel Discovery and J.Crew Pinterest Study The speaker uses J.Crew's Pinterest style guide strategy to illustrate top-of-funnel customer engagement and demand signaling. The host does not interject.18:44–20:02 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Direct Marketing Two Point Zero and Summary The segment concludes the presentation by summarizing the shift in marketing from an art to an optimization science. The episode ends as a pure solo monologue without host dialogue.0:19–2:22 · Guest teaching 3/10 Retail Landscape Twenty Years Ago The presenter opens with a monologue explaining the historical walls between brands and consumers created by retailers and mass media. The host does not interject or participate, keeping host-side metrics at zero.2:22–6:40 · Guest teaching 4/10 Retail Today and Three Direct Response Trends The speaker delivers a detailed case study on crowdfunding and pre-orders, highlighting Tesla's 300,000 Model 3 pre-orders. The host remains completely silent throughout the segment.6:40–11:35 · Guest teaching 4/10 Benefits of Social Commerce and Betabrand Case Study The presenter analyzes Betabrand's community voting model and the steep drop in traditional TV viewership among millennials. A slight tone of criticism is directed at traditional media ad spend efficiency.11:35–13:45 · Guest teaching 3/10 Case Study: Instacart and Targeted Marketing The speaker explains Instacart's data advantage over traditional grocery chains for targeted marketing. The presentation format continues without host interaction.13:45–16:16 · Guest teaching 4/10 Theme Three: Experiential Shopping and Search Funnel The presenter critiques bottom-of-funnel ad spending on Google and Amazon, arguing it leads to price compression and margin loss. The critique is focused on ad platforms rather than any host dynamic.16:16–18:44 · Guest teaching 3/10 Top-of-Funnel Discovery and J.Crew Pinterest Study The speaker uses J.Crew's Pinterest style guide strategy to illustrate top-of-funnel customer engagement and demand signaling. The host does not interject.18:44–20:02 · Guest teaching 3/10 Direct Marketing Two Point Zero and Summary The segment concludes the presentation by summarizing the shift in marketing from an art to an optimization science. The episode ends as a pure solo monologue without host dialogue.0:19–2:22 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Retail Landscape Twenty Years Ago The presenter opens with a monologue explaining the historical walls between brands and consumers created by retailers and mass media. The host does not interject or participate, keeping host-side metrics at zero.2:22–6:40 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Retail Today and Three Direct Response Trends The speaker delivers a detailed case study on crowdfunding and pre-orders, highlighting Tesla's 300,000 Model 3 pre-orders. The host remains completely silent throughout the segment.6:40–11:35 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Benefits of Social Commerce and Betabrand Case Study The presenter analyzes Betabrand's community voting model and the steep drop in traditional TV viewership among millennials. A slight tone of criticism is directed at traditional media ad spend efficiency.11:35–13:45 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Case Study: Instacart and Targeted Marketing The speaker explains Instacart's data advantage over traditional grocery chains for targeted marketing. The presentation format continues without host interaction.13:45–16:16 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Theme Three: Experiential Shopping and Search Funnel The presenter critiques bottom-of-funnel ad spending on Google and Amazon, arguing it leads to price compression and margin loss. The critique is focused on ad platforms rather than any host dynamic.16:16–18:44 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Top-of-Funnel Discovery and J.Crew Pinterest Study The speaker uses J.Crew's Pinterest style guide strategy to illustrate top-of-funnel customer engagement and demand signaling. The host does not interject.18:44–20:02 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Direct Marketing Two Point Zero and Summary The segment concludes the presentation by summarizing the shift in marketing from an art to an optimization science. The episode ends as a pure solo monologue without host dialogue.0:19–2:22 · The host pushing back 0/10 Retail Landscape Twenty Years Ago The presenter opens with a monologue explaining the historical walls between brands and consumers created by retailers and mass media. The host does not interject or participate, keeping host-side metrics at zero.2:22–6:40 · The host pushing back 0/10 Retail Today and Three Direct Response Trends The speaker delivers a detailed case study on crowdfunding and pre-orders, highlighting Tesla's 300,000 Model 3 pre-orders. The host remains completely silent throughout the segment.6:40–11:35 · The host pushing back 0/10 Benefits of Social Commerce and Betabrand Case Study The presenter analyzes Betabrand's community voting model and the steep drop in traditional TV viewership among millennials. A slight tone of criticism is directed at traditional media ad spend efficiency.11:35–13:45 · The host pushing back 0/10 Case Study: Instacart and Targeted Marketing The speaker explains Instacart's data advantage over traditional grocery chains for targeted marketing. The presentation format continues without host interaction.13:45–16:16 · The host pushing back 0/10 Theme Three: Experiential Shopping and Search Funnel The presenter critiques bottom-of-funnel ad spending on Google and Amazon, arguing it leads to price compression and margin loss. The critique is focused on ad platforms rather than any host dynamic.16:16–18:44 · The host pushing back 0/10 Top-of-Funnel Discovery and J.Crew Pinterest Study The speaker uses J.Crew's Pinterest style guide strategy to illustrate top-of-funnel customer engagement and demand signaling. The host does not interject.18:44–20:02 · The host pushing back 0/10 Direct Marketing Two Point Zero and Summary The segment concludes the presentation by summarizing the shift in marketing from an art to an optimization science. The episode ends as a pure solo monologue without host dialogue.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 15:15 Critique of Google taking product margins

The presenter forcefully criticizes search platforms like Google for capturing retailer margins through bottom-of-funnel bidding wars.

Hardest push from the host ▶ 0:01 Presentation introduction without host pushback

The host offers no commentary or pushback, allowing the guest to deliver an uninterrupted thesis presentation.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 3:15 Tesla Model 3 pre-order data breakdown

The speaker presents compelling data showing how Tesla generated fourteen billion dollars in demand in a week without mass media spend.

The host holds their own ▶ 0:01 Host passive opening

Because the episode is a solo presentation pitch, the host does not assert domain expertise or push back at any point.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe host as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe host pushing backWhy
Retail Landscape Twenty Years Ago 0300 The presenter opens with a monologue explaining the historical walls between brands and consumers created by retailers and mass media. The host does not interject or participate, keeping host-side metrics at zero.
Retail Today and Three Direct Response Trends 0400 The speaker delivers a detailed case study on crowdfunding and pre-orders, highlighting Tesla's 300,000 Model 3 pre-orders. The host remains completely silent throughout the segment.
Benefits of Social Commerce and Betabrand Case Study 0410 The presenter analyzes Betabrand's community voting model and the steep drop in traditional TV viewership among millennials. A slight tone of criticism is directed at traditional media ad spend efficiency.
Case Study: Instacart and Targeted Marketing 0300 The speaker explains Instacart's data advantage over traditional grocery chains for targeted marketing. The presentation format continues without host interaction.
Theme Three: Experiential Shopping and Search Funnel 0410 The presenter critiques bottom-of-funnel ad spending on Google and Amazon, arguing it leads to price compression and margin loss. The critique is focused on ad platforms rather than any host dynamic.
Top-of-Funnel Discovery and J.Crew Pinterest Study 0300 The speaker uses J.Crew's Pinterest style guide strategy to illustrate top-of-funnel customer engagement and demand signaling. The host does not interject.
Direct Marketing Two Point Zero and Summary 0300 The segment concludes the presentation by summarizing the shift in marketing from an art to an optimization science. The episode ends as a pure solo monologue without host dialogue.

Statements from this episode (10)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Traditional Retail Models Keep Consumer Brands Blind to Buyer Identities
“The brands in many cases don't even know what the consumer is buying, and they certainly don't know who the consumer is that is buying.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 0:37
Assertion Supported
Tesla Generated $14B in Model 3 Pre-Orders Without Mass Media Ads
“Tesla recently launched a pre-order for their Model Three, and in one week, they got to reserve demand for 300,000 cars, starting at 35,000 dollars per car. That represents demand of at least fourteen billion dollars. What is more interesting on that is they d…”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 4:06
Assertion Partly supported
GM, Ford, and Fiat Chrysler Rank Among Top 10 US Advertisers
“Three of the top 10 advertisers in the United States are GM, Ford, and Fiat Chrysler.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 5:47
Assertion Supported
Traditional TV Viewing Among 18- to 24-Year-Olds Has Declined by 38%
“They've lost 38% of 18 to 24 year olds.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 9:58
Assertion Partly supported
Prime-Time TV Total Audience Collapsed From 15 Million to 4 Million
“The total audience for prime time viewing over the last few decades has gone to something like 14, fifteen million to something like four million.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 10:27
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Massive Reach Will Not Sustain Broadcast TV Against Facebook and Snapchat
“Facebook and Snapchat increasingly are aggregating similar size audiences. So the concept of reach isn't going to be a sustainable differentiator over time.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 11:18
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Instacart Tracks User Purchases While CPG Brands Lack Physical Store Visibility
“Instacart knows what a user has bought in every single visit to the grocery store. The brands have no idea what's happening at Kroger's. Instacart knows exactly what was bought by every individual.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 12:12
Opinion
Sunday Newspapers Survive Solely Due to Promotional Coupon Inserts
“The only reason Sunday papers still exist is that big fat thing of promotional coupons that come in the middle of it.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 12:50
Insight
Complete Price Transparency on Digital Platforms Creates Downward Price Compression
“And when you get complete price transparency, what you get is downward compression on prices. Because the consumer typically is looking for the lowest.”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 15:10
Opinion
Google Drains Retail Profit Margins Through Dual-Funnel Advertising Spend
“A lot of people think Google massively overcharges. They're taking all the margin out of the product because of this. The marketers, brands are spending at the top. Retailers are spending at the bottom. Margins is disappearing into the coffers of these compani…”
Jeff Jordan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 16:03
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