Dec 15, 2017 · 22m · a16z

Challenges in Healthcare Innovation

Jorge Conde · 19m spoken
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In this keynote presentation at the a16z Summit, Andreessen Horowitz General Partner Jorge Conde examines how the convergence of biology, software, and engineering is disrupting healthcare. He demonstrates how modern technological tools and stakeholder alignment can overcome high drug development costs, systemic complexity, and historical scientific bottlenecks.

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The host as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 4.7 Guest disagreement 0.8 The host pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:0020:000:56–5:00 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Software Expansion and Big Tech Entering Healthcare Because this is a solo monologue presentation, the host does not speak or engage, yielding 0s for host expertise and pushback. Jorge educates the audience on eRoom's law and high biopharma R&D costs while maintaining a collaborative presentation tone.5:00–8:58 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Unraveling Disease Biology and Historical Hype Cycles Jorge breaks down why drug discovery fails by contrasting well-understood diseases like Sickle Cell with unknown disease biology in Alzheimer's. The host remains entirely absent from the audio segment.8:58–11:49 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Next-Generation Capabilities in Biology Understanding and Engineering The guest outlines the historical shift from small molecules to large molecules, living medicines, and upcoming intelligent medicines. Host activity is non-existent during this monologue segment.11:49–15:33 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Transforming Preclinical Testing and Clinical Trial Efficiency Jorge explains organ-on-a-chip technology and how tech partnerships reduce trial recruitment costs by 96 percent. The host does not provide any commentary or pushback.15:33–20:30 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Aligning Stakeholders Across the Entire Healthcare Value Chain Jorge offers mild contrarian reframing around regulatory risk, arguing that complaining about the FDA is like blaming the referee when your team loses. The host remains silent throughout.20:30–22:14 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Biology as Information Technology and Presentation Conclusion The segment concludes with Jorge explaining how DNA can store digital movie frame data using CRISPR technology. There is no host involvement.0:56–5:00 · Guest teaching 4/10 Software Expansion and Big Tech Entering Healthcare Because this is a solo monologue presentation, the host does not speak or engage, yielding 0s for host expertise and pushback. Jorge educates the audience on eRoom's law and high biopharma R&D costs while maintaining a collaborative presentation tone.5:00–8:58 · Guest teaching 5/10 Unraveling Disease Biology and Historical Hype Cycles Jorge breaks down why drug discovery fails by contrasting well-understood diseases like Sickle Cell with unknown disease biology in Alzheimer's. The host remains entirely absent from the audio segment.8:58–11:49 · Guest teaching 5/10 Next-Generation Capabilities in Biology Understanding and Engineering The guest outlines the historical shift from small molecules to large molecules, living medicines, and upcoming intelligent medicines. Host activity is non-existent during this monologue segment.11:49–15:33 · Guest teaching 5/10 Transforming Preclinical Testing and Clinical Trial Efficiency Jorge explains organ-on-a-chip technology and how tech partnerships reduce trial recruitment costs by 96 percent. The host does not provide any commentary or pushback.15:33–20:30 · Guest teaching 5/10 Aligning Stakeholders Across the Entire Healthcare Value Chain Jorge offers mild contrarian reframing around regulatory risk, arguing that complaining about the FDA is like blaming the referee when your team loses. The host remains silent throughout.20:30–22:14 · Guest teaching 4/10 Biology as Information Technology and Presentation Conclusion The segment concludes with Jorge explaining how DNA can store digital movie frame data using CRISPR technology. There is no host involvement.0:56–5:00 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Software Expansion and Big Tech Entering Healthcare Because this is a solo monologue presentation, the host does not speak or engage, yielding 0s for host expertise and pushback. Jorge educates the audience on eRoom's law and high biopharma R&D costs while maintaining a collaborative presentation tone.5:00–8:58 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Unraveling Disease Biology and Historical Hype Cycles Jorge breaks down why drug discovery fails by contrasting well-understood diseases like Sickle Cell with unknown disease biology in Alzheimer's. The host remains entirely absent from the audio segment.8:58–11:49 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Next-Generation Capabilities in Biology Understanding and Engineering The guest outlines the historical shift from small molecules to large molecules, living medicines, and upcoming intelligent medicines. Host activity is non-existent during this monologue segment.11:49–15:33 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Transforming Preclinical Testing and Clinical Trial Efficiency Jorge explains organ-on-a-chip technology and how tech partnerships reduce trial recruitment costs by 96 percent. The host does not provide any commentary or pushback.15:33–20:30 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Aligning Stakeholders Across the Entire Healthcare Value Chain Jorge offers mild contrarian reframing around regulatory risk, arguing that complaining about the FDA is like blaming the referee when your team loses. The host remains silent throughout.20:30–22:14 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Biology as Information Technology and Presentation Conclusion The segment concludes with Jorge explaining how DNA can store digital movie frame data using CRISPR technology. There is no host involvement.0:56–5:00 · The host pushing back 0/10 Software Expansion and Big Tech Entering Healthcare Because this is a solo monologue presentation, the host does not speak or engage, yielding 0s for host expertise and pushback. Jorge educates the audience on eRoom's law and high biopharma R&D costs while maintaining a collaborative presentation tone.5:00–8:58 · The host pushing back 0/10 Unraveling Disease Biology and Historical Hype Cycles Jorge breaks down why drug discovery fails by contrasting well-understood diseases like Sickle Cell with unknown disease biology in Alzheimer's. The host remains entirely absent from the audio segment.8:58–11:49 · The host pushing back 0/10 Next-Generation Capabilities in Biology Understanding and Engineering The guest outlines the historical shift from small molecules to large molecules, living medicines, and upcoming intelligent medicines. Host activity is non-existent during this monologue segment.11:49–15:33 · The host pushing back 0/10 Transforming Preclinical Testing and Clinical Trial Efficiency Jorge explains organ-on-a-chip technology and how tech partnerships reduce trial recruitment costs by 96 percent. The host does not provide any commentary or pushback.15:33–20:30 · The host pushing back 0/10 Aligning Stakeholders Across the Entire Healthcare Value Chain Jorge offers mild contrarian reframing around regulatory risk, arguing that complaining about the FDA is like blaming the referee when your team loses. The host remains silent throughout.20:30–22:14 · The host pushing back 0/10 Biology as Information Technology and Presentation Conclusion The segment concludes with Jorge explaining how DNA can store digital movie frame data using CRISPR technology. There is no host involvement.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 17:20 Blaming the referee: Reframing FDA regulatory risk

Jorge challenges the conventional view that the FDA is a primary roadblock, comparing industry complaints about regulators to sports fans blaming referees for losses.

Hardest push from the host ▶ 0:56 Absence of host pushback

Because the transcript is a solo keynote address, the host offers no pushback or resistance at any point.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 7:00 Unpacking Alzheimer's trial failures versus Sickle Cell

Jorge delivers an insightful explanation detailing how clinical trial failures stem from a fundamental lack of understanding of underlying disease biology.

The host holds their own ▶ 0:56 Absence of host participation

The host is silent during this monologue recording and does not demonstrate expertise or counter the speaker.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe host as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe host pushing backWhy
Software Expansion and Big Tech Entering Healthcare 0410 Because this is a solo monologue presentation, the host does not speak or engage, yielding 0s for host expertise and pushback. Jorge educates the audience on eRoom's law and high biopharma R&D costs while maintaining a collaborative presentation tone.
Unraveling Disease Biology and Historical Hype Cycles 0510 Jorge breaks down why drug discovery fails by contrasting well-understood diseases like Sickle Cell with unknown disease biology in Alzheimer's. The host remains entirely absent from the audio segment.
Next-Generation Capabilities in Biology Understanding and Engineering 0500 The guest outlines the historical shift from small molecules to large molecules, living medicines, and upcoming intelligent medicines. Host activity is non-existent during this monologue segment.
Transforming Preclinical Testing and Clinical Trial Efficiency 0510 Jorge explains organ-on-a-chip technology and how tech partnerships reduce trial recruitment costs by 96 percent. The host does not provide any commentary or pushback.
Aligning Stakeholders Across the Entire Healthcare Value Chain 0520 Jorge offers mild contrarian reframing around regulatory risk, arguing that complaining about the FDA is like blaming the referee when your team loses. The host remains silent throughout.
Biology as Information Technology and Presentation Conclusion 0400 The segment concludes with Jorge explaining how DNA can store digital movie frame data using CRISPR technology. There is no host involvement.

Statements from this episode (18)

Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2047
Conde: U.S. healthcare spending as a share of GDP will double
“Today it accounts for about 20% of our GDP, and that number is going to double over the course of the next three decades.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 0:47
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Conde: Biology is shifting from experimental science to an engineered discipline
“As we move beyond software, we're at this point where we're seeing this incredible convergence between biology, computer science, and engineering. And it's this convergence that's going to give us broad new superpowers to understand and manipulate biology. Ess…”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 1:30
Assertion Supported
Conde: U.S. biopharma spends $75B annually on R&D
“The U.S. Biopharmaceutical industry spends about seventy five billion dollars every single year in research and development.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 2:00
Assertion Supported
Conde: U.S. drug market generates $500B in annual sales
“The market for drug sales in the United States alone is about a half a trillion dollars annually.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 2:13
Assertion Supported
Conde: Average drugs require $2.5B and 10 to 15 years to develop
“And so when you add all of this up, it takes an incredible two and a half billion dollars and 10 to 15 years of investment to get the average drug to market when you account for all of the failures along the way.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 3:23
Assertion Supported
Conde: Only one in 10,000 drug compounds becomes a product
“In this world, it's one in 10,000 becomes a product.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 3:45
Prediction Held up
Conde: Medicine will cure sickle cell anemia within 10 years
“And so if I had to bet, I would bet that in the next 10 years, we will have solved sickle cell anemia, much like we've solved cystic fibrosis, that had a very similar profile in terms of what we understood about the disease.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 6:45
Insight
Conde: Poor biological understanding drives most drug discovery failures
“So the real truth is the vast majority of drugs fail and are found ineffective or toxic because we don't understand the underlying disease biology.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 8:16
Assertion Supported
Conde: Broad Institute created a cell atlas to analyze cell dysfunction
“So scientists at the Broad Institute at Harvard and MIT, they've created an atlas of various different cell types, so we can understand how different cells function and dysfunction.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 9:35
Assertion Supported
Conde: Seven of top ten selling drugs are protein-based
“The emergence of the biotechnology industry gave us the ability to coax organisms to make proteins for us, and as a result, seven of the top 10 selling drugs today are protein-based drugs.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 10:49
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Conde: Future cell therapies will use programmed logic to target diseases
“Well, if we get really good at understanding biology, and we get really good at engineering biology, on the horizon, we have the ability to begin to program cells so that we can imbue them with logic. So we can take a cell and have it understand how to find di…”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 11:20
Assertion Supported
Conde: 40% of Phase III drugs fail after a decade of investment
“Up to 40% of drugs that go through a phase three trial fail. 40%. This is after 10 years, a decade, and hundreds of millions of dollars invested.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 12:39
Assertion Partly supported
Conde: Facebook reduced clinical trial patient recruitment costs by 96%
“So Facebook, for example, as I mentioned earlier, is using their social network to help us identify and recruit patients for clinical trials. And in fact, they did a pilot project with the Michael J. Fox foundation where they were able to reduce the cost and t…”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 15:02
Insight
Conde: FDA regulatory risk is fundamentally scientific risk
“FDA risk or regulatory risk is really just another way of saying scientific risk, of saying we're going to conduct an experiment, and we are not quite sure what's going to happen.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 17:00
Opinion
Conde: The FDA has become an incredible collaborator to industry
“So I think if anything, the FDA has become an incredible collaborator to industry.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 17:46
Insight
Conde: Healthcare payers are value assessors, not cost cutters
“But the reality is payers aren't cost cutters. They're assessors of value. And if you have transformative drugs, or if you can transform how we think about diagnosing and screening disease, the payers are willing to pay for that value.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 17:58
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Conde: Biology will function like IT and disrupt non-healthcare industries
“So we're living at this incredible point in time where biology is going to look a lot like information technology, and that it's going to be able to tackle and transform and perhaps even disrupt multiple industries.”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 21:07
Assertion Supported
Conde: Scientists used CRISPR to encode and retrieve digital video in DNA
“What scientists were able to do is they were able to take this video, the pixels from this video, and using CRISPR can coax a bacterial cell to ingest the information and store it in its DNA. And on the right, what you're seeing Is scientists' ability to retri…”
Jorge Conde Dec 15, 2017 ▶ 21:35
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