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Jan 13, 2018 · 12m · a16z

Rise of the Super App: Mobile-First Product Ideas from China

Connie Chan · 10m spoken
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At the Women in Product Conference 2017, Andreessen Horowitz Partner Connie Chan breaks down key mobile product innovations from China, focusing on super app ecosystems and hardware-maximizing 'mobile first' design strategies.

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The host as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 0.0 Guest disagreement 0.0 The host pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:000:35–4:53 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Principle 1: The Rise of the Super App This is a solo presentation segment by Connie Chan explaining the concept of super apps like WeChat, Alipay, and Gojek. Since there is no host interaction or interjection during this monologue, all dynamic and host metrics are zero.4:53–8:01 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Principle 2: What Mobile First Really Means Connie Chan presents her definition of mobile-first design as hardware utilization rather than screen time. The host is absent during this monologue section, requiring zero scores across all dynamic metrics.8:01–12:04 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Using Every Part of the Smartphone Chan concludes her talk using the 'every part of the buffalo' metaphor to explain full smartphone hardware integration in Chinese apps. With no host dialogue present, scores remain zero across all categories.0:35–4:53 · Guest teaching 0/10 Principle 1: The Rise of the Super App This is a solo presentation segment by Connie Chan explaining the concept of super apps like WeChat, Alipay, and Gojek. Since there is no host interaction or interjection during this monologue, all dynamic and host metrics are zero.4:53–8:01 · Guest teaching 0/10 Principle 2: What Mobile First Really Means Connie Chan presents her definition of mobile-first design as hardware utilization rather than screen time. The host is absent during this monologue section, requiring zero scores across all dynamic metrics.8:01–12:04 · Guest teaching 0/10 Using Every Part of the Smartphone Chan concludes her talk using the 'every part of the buffalo' metaphor to explain full smartphone hardware integration in Chinese apps. With no host dialogue present, scores remain zero across all categories.0:35–4:53 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Principle 1: The Rise of the Super App This is a solo presentation segment by Connie Chan explaining the concept of super apps like WeChat, Alipay, and Gojek. Since there is no host interaction or interjection during this monologue, all dynamic and host metrics are zero.4:53–8:01 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Principle 2: What Mobile First Really Means Connie Chan presents her definition of mobile-first design as hardware utilization rather than screen time. The host is absent during this monologue section, requiring zero scores across all dynamic metrics.8:01–12:04 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Using Every Part of the Smartphone Chan concludes her talk using the 'every part of the buffalo' metaphor to explain full smartphone hardware integration in Chinese apps. With no host dialogue present, scores remain zero across all categories.0:35–4:53 · The host pushing back 0/10 Principle 1: The Rise of the Super App This is a solo presentation segment by Connie Chan explaining the concept of super apps like WeChat, Alipay, and Gojek. Since there is no host interaction or interjection during this monologue, all dynamic and host metrics are zero.4:53–8:01 · The host pushing back 0/10 Principle 2: What Mobile First Really Means Connie Chan presents her definition of mobile-first design as hardware utilization rather than screen time. The host is absent during this monologue section, requiring zero scores across all dynamic metrics.8:01–12:04 · The host pushing back 0/10 Using Every Part of the Smartphone Chan concludes her talk using the 'every part of the buffalo' metaphor to explain full smartphone hardware integration in Chinese apps. With no host dialogue present, scores remain zero across all categories.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 2:45 Challenging Western design critique

Chan describes recounting feedback from a Western Silicon Valley designer who labeled super app UIs as awful, contrasting his criticism with the pragmatic reality of Asian super apps.

 Hardest push from the host ▶ 5:00 Rejecting conventional mobile-first definition

Chan explicitly rejects the common Western understanding that mobile-first simply means spending all day on a smartphone, redefining it instead as hardware-level feature integration.

 Biggest teaching moment ▶ 8:40 Explaining camera as data input

Chan educates the audience on how Chinese apps treat the smartphone camera as a data input tool for QR code payments rather than merely an image capture device.

 The host holds their own ▶ 3:30 Super app navigation superiority

Chan demonstrates domain authority by arguing that navigating WeChat or Alipay is actually more efficient than navigating a standard iPhone home screen.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe host as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe host pushing backWhy
Principle 1: The Rise of the Super App 0000 This is a solo presentation segment by Connie Chan explaining the concept of super apps like WeChat, Alipay, and Gojek. Since there is no host interaction or interjection during this monologue, all dynamic and host metrics are zero.
Principle 2: What Mobile First Really Means 0000 Connie Chan presents her definition of mobile-first design as hardware utilization rather than screen time. The host is absent during this monologue section, requiring zero scores across all dynamic metrics.
Using Every Part of the Smartphone 0000 Chan concludes her talk using the 'every part of the buffalo' metaphor to explain full smartphone hardware integration in Chinese apps. With no host dialogue present, scores remain zero across all categories.

Statements from this episode (8)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Connie Chan: China has many successful super apps besides WeChat
“But the reality is China actually has many examples of successful super apps.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 0:54
Insight
Connie Chan: Sharing traffic across services helps retain user mindshare
“Sharing your traffic will help you retain mindshare and help you retain relevance.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 4:02
What-if
Connie Chan: A Chinese Craigslist would have added transactions long ago
“If Craigslist was in China, they long ago would have added a number of other transactions, either built by themselves or through partnerships.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 4:34
Insight
Connie Chan: True mobile-first apps design specifically for smartphone hardware
“In my mind, what makes WeChat mobile first Is that they have completely unshackled themselves from the constraints of designing for a PC, and they utilize features that are mobile-specific, that are specific to mobile hardware.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 5:50
Assertion Supported
Connie Chan: Chinese consumers can go weeks without cash or credit
“You can go two, three weeks and never have to use a credit card, nor take out cash.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 8:34
Assertion Supported
Connie Chan: Mobile payments in China rely on QR codes over NFC
“Did you know that all that mobile payment, all of that's happening with the camera. It's not happening with NFC. It's not happening with a smart chip. They're using their camera to scan a QR code to complete a payment.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 8:41
Insight
Connie Chan: True mobile-first design treats cameras as data input devices
“They're using the camera as data input, not just data capture of an image. It's a different mindset of how to utilize smartphone, how to really, truly be mobile first.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 9:09
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Connie Chan predicts Chinese mobile trends will reach the US by 2020
“I have a thesis that a lot of consumer mobile trends that we see in China today will start playing out in the US in one or two years.”
Connie Chan Jan 13, 2018 ▶ 9:29
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