Jan 2, 2019 · 27m · a16z

a16z Podcast | Finally a Tablet that Replaces Your Laptop

Steven Sinofsky · 13m spoken Benedict Evans · 9m spoken Michael Copeland · 2m spoken

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In this episode of the a16z Podcast, host Michael Copeland and tech experts Steven Sinofsky and Benedict Evans discuss whether the iPad Pro can fully replace the traditional laptop. They explore hardware performance leaps, touch ergonomics, software evolution, and the shift toward tablet-first productivity for modern knowledge workers.

Chapters · click to jump

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Sinofsky: iPad Pro has 100% replaced my laptop workflow open →

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Evans: iPad Pro CPU has 1,000x transistors of a 1995 Pentium open →

Evans: iPad Pro replaces 90% of laptop workflow except PowerPoint charting open →

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Evans: iPad Pro touch ergonomics surpass Surface due to missing trackpad open →

Sinofsky: Has not used a computer mouse in five years open →

Sinofsky: Computer mice are an unnatural interface for non-native users open →

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Sinofsky: iPad apps will be major assets for productivity startups open →

Evans: The iPad Pro is personal computing's Boeing 707 moment open →

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Sinofsky: iPad Outlook app has features missing from Windows desktop Outlook open →

Evans: Global iOS and Android devices will reach five billion open →

Evans: Desktop computers represent half of total PC sales and installed base open →

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. How this is scored →

The host as informed peer 1.4 Guest teaching 6.2 Guest disagreement 1.2 The host pushing back 1.4

speaking balance: gold is the host, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

Sharpest disagreement ▶ 11:32 Playful disagreement over Windows versioning

Benedict Evans directly corrects former Windows head Steven Sinofsky on whether split-screen snapping was introduced in Windows 7 or 8, lightheartedly remarking 'Not that I'm petty, but it was seven.'

Hardest push from the host ▶ 12:56 Host challenges reliance on smartphone synergy

Michael Copeland redirects the narrative by asking whether the guests would be genuinely satisfied with tablets if smartphones hadn't evolved simultaneously to share the load.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 20:00 The piston aircraft vs. jet engine paradigm

Benedict Evans reframes the entire hardware debate by comparing high-end PCs to optimized 1950s piston-powered planes and modern tablets to early jet engines that reveal the future developmental trajectory.

The host holds their own ▶ 22:39 Host pushes on real-world enterprise adoption

Michael Copeland cuts through the tech-enthusiast praise to ask whether tablets are actually ready to replace traditional PCs for average office workers.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each

Topic	The host as informed peer	Guest teaching	Guest disagreement	The host pushing back	Why
Shift in Computing Paradigm and Mental Load	1	6	1	1	Host Michael Copeland acts purely as a facilitator while Sinofsky and Evans discuss transistor scaling, DOS vs. Windows paradigm shifts, and file system mental load. The guests dominate with deep historical and technical context while the host offers simple affirmations.
Touch Ergonomics and Software Evolution	1	6	1	1	The host prompts the guests with simple open questions like asking for examples of better features. Sinofsky and Evans educate on touch ergonomics, screen proximity, and the historical indirectness of the mouse.
Multitasking, Split-Screen, and System Continuity	2	5	2	2	The host asks a pertinent clarifying question about whether tablets depend on smartphone ecosystem maturity. Evans playfully corrects Sinofsky on Windows OS version history regarding split-screen snapping.
Streamlined Workflows and the Jet Engine Analogy	1	7	1	1	The host facilitates with brief questions about personal workflow changes. Evans delivers a detailed analogy comparing legacy PCs to 1950s piston aircraft and modern tablets to early jet engines.
Redefining Power Users and Office Tablet Adoption	2	7	1	2	The host introduces the topic of power users and questions if tablets will actually take over enterprise offices. Evans responds with a comprehensive breakdown of computing market segments and total addressable user bases.

Statements from this episode (11)

Assertion Not checkable as stated

Sinofsky: iPad Pro has 100% replaced my laptop workflow

“Literally, this is the only thing I've carried all week. I have no, I haven't missed my MacBook. I haven't missed my PC laptop. I have made slides. I've worked on spreadsheets. I've written a blog post. I've used apps. I've used the browser. Like, it's a hundr…”

Steven Sinofsky Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 1:36

Assertion Supported

Evans: iPad Pro CPU has 1,000x transistors of a 1995 Pentium

“So, I mean, just picking up on what Stephen said, there's a observation that the CPU in the new iPad pros is, has roughly a thousand times more transistors than a Pentium from back in 1995.”

Benedict Evans Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 2:07

Disclosure

Evans: iPad Pro replaces 90% of laptop workflow except PowerPoint charting

“For me, I mean, I tweeted that I'm kind of 90% there on this. The gap for me is doing charts in PowerPoint.”

Benedict Evans Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 3:25

Opinion

Evans: iPad Pro touch ergonomics surpass Surface due to missing trackpad

“The thing that I found with the iPad Pro is because it doesn't have the touchpad the screen is closer to you. Yeah. And therefore the screen is closer, I don't know how you'd measure it, but it's closer to your elbows. Yeah. And it's closer to your shoulders. …”

Benedict Evans Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 8:56

Disclosure

Sinofsky: Has not used a computer mouse in five years

“I haven't used a mouse in, like, five years,”

Steven Sinofsky Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 10:32

Insight

Sinofsky: Computer mice are an unnatural interface for non-native users

“It turns out all those things people said in the eighties when mice came out about like, it's kind of detached from what I'm doing. And it's this level of indirect. It turns out it's very true. And if you've, if you didn't force yourself to experience it as yo…”

Steven Sinofsky Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 10:48

Prediction Not checkable as stated

Sinofsky: iPad apps will be major assets for productivity startups

“I think that your iPad app is going to be a real asset if you have one and you're in the productivity space.”

Steven Sinofsky Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 18:07

Insight

Evans: The iPad Pro is personal computing's Boeing 707 moment

“And I think this is kind of the point that there's, you could almost say, like, the iPad Pro is like, this is the seven, now the seven oh seven. It's the one at which you point, okay, well, the Lockheed Constellation is a beautiful aircraft.”

Benedict Evans Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 20:39

Assertion Supported

Sinofsky: iPad Outlook app has features missing from Windows desktop Outlook

“The Outlook that got updated today that's on my iPad, like, has connections to Facebook events and Evernote, which aren't things that exist in the Outlook that I would use on my Windows desktop.”

Steven Sinofsky Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 22:28

Prediction Held up

Evans: Global iOS and Android devices will reach five billion

“There's one and a half billion PCs on Earth. There's three billion iOS and Android devices on Earth. We'll go to five billion.”

Benedict Evans Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 24:21

Assertion Partly supported

Evans: Desktop computers represent half of total PC sales and installed base

“Half of the sales, half of the base is still a desktop, because there's a bunch of people who either, their IT department only want to spend 300 dollars on a computer, Or they want a big screen, or they want the performance, or whatever it is.”

Benedict Evans Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 24:40

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