Apr 19, 2023 · 30m · a16z

Global Investing in Tech: Pattern Recognition, Founder Traits, Momentum | Field Notes by Connie Chan

Chris Schroeder · 18m spoken Connie Chan · 9m spoken
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In this episode of Field Notes by a16z, host Connie Chan speaks with global investor Chris Schroeder about technology innovation in emerging markets, highlighting cross-border pattern recognition, localized go-to-market strategies, founder resilience, and the rapid adoption of FinTech and AI.

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The host as informed peer 5.4 Guest teaching 3.1 Guest disagreement 0.4 The host pushing back 0.3
05100:0010:0020:0030:000:54–3:34 · The host as informed peer 4/10 Chris Schroeder's Path to Emerging Markets Connie sets the stage by identifying core emerging market trends such as mobile-first adoption and tech-forward young demographics. Chris expands on his experience as an operator in emerging markets and unbanked populations in a friendly, collaborative manner.3:34–7:00 · The host as informed peer 5/10 Local Adaptations and Go-To-Market Strategies Chris explicitly references Connie's past pushback regarding market scale in China versus smaller markets like Singapore. Connie steers the dialogue by prompting Chris on momentum and go-to-market strategies like local cash payments.7:00–11:17 · The host as informed peer 7/10 Capital Floods and De-Risking Entrepreneurship The dynamic shifts to a peer exchange where Chris asks Connie about her China investing experience. Connie demonstrates strong domain knowledge by explaining the VC logic behind over-funding competing startups when overall market size is massive.11:17–14:03 · The host as informed peer 6/10 International Expansion vs. Core Focus and Super Apps Connie introduces the concept of super apps using WeChat as a benchmark. Chris politely offers a refined definition based on MercadoLibre focusing deeply on multi-product adjacencies like payments and credit rather than broad consumer everything-apps.14:03–17:12 · The host as informed peer 6/10 Talent Recycling and Ecosystem Angel Investors Connie draws direct parallels to China's tech ecosystem, explaining how liquidity events from tech giants generate experienced angel investors. Chris agrees and contrasts value-add operators with non-value-add crypto wealth.17:12–21:09 · The host as informed peer 6/10 Ground Reality, Local Partners, and Regulatory Risk Connie shares actionable primary research methods, explaining how interviewing hotel staff and waitstaff helped VCs identify breakout consumer apps in lower-tier Chinese cities. Chris validates the approach while discussing local partner reliance.21:09–25:07 · The host as informed peer 6/10 Digitizing Traditional Retail and FinTech Infrastructure Connie frames FinTech as the core infrastructure underlying emerging market innovation, which prompts Chris to ask for her take on regional fintech fragmentation across borders.25:07–30:22 · The host as informed peer 3/10 Global Adoption of Generative AI and GPT-3 Connie asks high-level concluding questions about global AI adoption and personal motivations. Chris provides long, reflective insights into GPT-3 adoption among international founders and global optimism.0:54–3:34 · Guest teaching 3/10 Chris Schroeder's Path to Emerging Markets Connie sets the stage by identifying core emerging market trends such as mobile-first adoption and tech-forward young demographics. Chris expands on his experience as an operator in emerging markets and unbanked populations in a friendly, collaborative manner.3:34–7:00 · Guest teaching 3/10 Local Adaptations and Go-To-Market Strategies Chris explicitly references Connie's past pushback regarding market scale in China versus smaller markets like Singapore. Connie steers the dialogue by prompting Chris on momentum and go-to-market strategies like local cash payments.7:00–11:17 · Guest teaching 4/10 Capital Floods and De-Risking Entrepreneurship The dynamic shifts to a peer exchange where Chris asks Connie about her China investing experience. Connie demonstrates strong domain knowledge by explaining the VC logic behind over-funding competing startups when overall market size is massive.11:17–14:03 · Guest teaching 4/10 International Expansion vs. Core Focus and Super Apps Connie introduces the concept of super apps using WeChat as a benchmark. Chris politely offers a refined definition based on MercadoLibre focusing deeply on multi-product adjacencies like payments and credit rather than broad consumer everything-apps.14:03–17:12 · Guest teaching 3/10 Talent Recycling and Ecosystem Angel Investors Connie draws direct parallels to China's tech ecosystem, explaining how liquidity events from tech giants generate experienced angel investors. Chris agrees and contrasts value-add operators with non-value-add crypto wealth.17:12–21:09 · Guest teaching 2/10 Ground Reality, Local Partners, and Regulatory Risk Connie shares actionable primary research methods, explaining how interviewing hotel staff and waitstaff helped VCs identify breakout consumer apps in lower-tier Chinese cities. Chris validates the approach while discussing local partner reliance.21:09–25:07 · Guest teaching 3/10 Digitizing Traditional Retail and FinTech Infrastructure Connie frames FinTech as the core infrastructure underlying emerging market innovation, which prompts Chris to ask for her take on regional fintech fragmentation across borders.25:07–30:22 · Guest teaching 3/10 Global Adoption of Generative AI and GPT-3 Connie asks high-level concluding questions about global AI adoption and personal motivations. Chris provides long, reflective insights into GPT-3 adoption among international founders and global optimism.0:54–3:34 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Chris Schroeder's Path to Emerging Markets Connie sets the stage by identifying core emerging market trends such as mobile-first adoption and tech-forward young demographics. Chris expands on his experience as an operator in emerging markets and unbanked populations in a friendly, collaborative manner.3:34–7:00 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Local Adaptations and Go-To-Market Strategies Chris explicitly references Connie's past pushback regarding market scale in China versus smaller markets like Singapore. Connie steers the dialogue by prompting Chris on momentum and go-to-market strategies like local cash payments.7:00–11:17 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Capital Floods and De-Risking Entrepreneurship The dynamic shifts to a peer exchange where Chris asks Connie about her China investing experience. Connie demonstrates strong domain knowledge by explaining the VC logic behind over-funding competing startups when overall market size is massive.11:17–14:03 · Guest disagreement 1/10 International Expansion vs. Core Focus and Super Apps Connie introduces the concept of super apps using WeChat as a benchmark. Chris politely offers a refined definition based on MercadoLibre focusing deeply on multi-product adjacencies like payments and credit rather than broad consumer everything-apps.14:03–17:12 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Talent Recycling and Ecosystem Angel Investors Connie draws direct parallels to China's tech ecosystem, explaining how liquidity events from tech giants generate experienced angel investors. Chris agrees and contrasts value-add operators with non-value-add crypto wealth.17:12–21:09 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Ground Reality, Local Partners, and Regulatory Risk Connie shares actionable primary research methods, explaining how interviewing hotel staff and waitstaff helped VCs identify breakout consumer apps in lower-tier Chinese cities. Chris validates the approach while discussing local partner reliance.21:09–25:07 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Digitizing Traditional Retail and FinTech Infrastructure Connie frames FinTech as the core infrastructure underlying emerging market innovation, which prompts Chris to ask for her take on regional fintech fragmentation across borders.25:07–30:22 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Global Adoption of Generative AI and GPT-3 Connie asks high-level concluding questions about global AI adoption and personal motivations. Chris provides long, reflective insights into GPT-3 adoption among international founders and global optimism.0:54–3:34 · The host pushing back 0/10 Chris Schroeder's Path to Emerging Markets Connie sets the stage by identifying core emerging market trends such as mobile-first adoption and tech-forward young demographics. Chris expands on his experience as an operator in emerging markets and unbanked populations in a friendly, collaborative manner.3:34–7:00 · The host pushing back 1/10 Local Adaptations and Go-To-Market Strategies Chris explicitly references Connie's past pushback regarding market scale in China versus smaller markets like Singapore. Connie steers the dialogue by prompting Chris on momentum and go-to-market strategies like local cash payments.7:00–11:17 · The host pushing back 1/10 Capital Floods and De-Risking Entrepreneurship The dynamic shifts to a peer exchange where Chris asks Connie about her China investing experience. Connie demonstrates strong domain knowledge by explaining the VC logic behind over-funding competing startups when overall market size is massive.11:17–14:03 · The host pushing back 0/10 International Expansion vs. Core Focus and Super Apps Connie introduces the concept of super apps using WeChat as a benchmark. Chris politely offers a refined definition based on MercadoLibre focusing deeply on multi-product adjacencies like payments and credit rather than broad consumer everything-apps.14:03–17:12 · The host pushing back 0/10 Talent Recycling and Ecosystem Angel Investors Connie draws direct parallels to China's tech ecosystem, explaining how liquidity events from tech giants generate experienced angel investors. Chris agrees and contrasts value-add operators with non-value-add crypto wealth.17:12–21:09 · The host pushing back 0/10 Ground Reality, Local Partners, and Regulatory Risk Connie shares actionable primary research methods, explaining how interviewing hotel staff and waitstaff helped VCs identify breakout consumer apps in lower-tier Chinese cities. Chris validates the approach while discussing local partner reliance.21:09–25:07 · The host pushing back 0/10 Digitizing Traditional Retail and FinTech Infrastructure Connie frames FinTech as the core infrastructure underlying emerging market innovation, which prompts Chris to ask for her take on regional fintech fragmentation across borders.25:07–30:22 · The host pushing back 0/10 Global Adoption of Generative AI and GPT-3 Connie asks high-level concluding questions about global AI adoption and personal motivations. Chris provides long, reflective insights into GPT-3 adoption among international founders and global optimism.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 12:50 Guest redefines host's super app framing

Chris gently reframes Connie's definition of super apps, arguing that outside of China it often means focusing deeply on four key financial services rather than offering all-in-one consumer platforms.

Hardest push from the host ▶ 6:17 Host steering on momentum vs scale

Chris notes that Connie previously pushed back on his view regarding emerging market momentum by emphasizing the necessity of total addressable market scale, as seen in China.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 9:44 Guest clarifies tier city population drop-offs

Chris nuances Connie's tier-city comparison by pointing out that unlike China's massive lower-tier cities, emerging markets like Egypt or Indonesia experience a much sharper population drop-off outside primary hubs.

The host holds their own ▶ 8:14 Host provides expert market size breakdown

Connie demonstrates deep venture capital expertise when answering Chris's question, explaining why heavy capital deployment into direct competitors is rational in huge markets.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe host as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe host pushing backWhy
Chris Schroeder's Path to Emerging Markets 4300 Connie sets the stage by identifying core emerging market trends such as mobile-first adoption and tech-forward young demographics. Chris expands on his experience as an operator in emerging markets and unbanked populations in a friendly, collaborative manner.
Local Adaptations and Go-To-Market Strategies 5311 Chris explicitly references Connie's past pushback regarding market scale in China versus smaller markets like Singapore. Connie steers the dialogue by prompting Chris on momentum and go-to-market strategies like local cash payments.
Capital Floods and De-Risking Entrepreneurship 7411 The dynamic shifts to a peer exchange where Chris asks Connie about her China investing experience. Connie demonstrates strong domain knowledge by explaining the VC logic behind over-funding competing startups when overall market size is massive.
International Expansion vs. Core Focus and Super Apps 6410 Connie introduces the concept of super apps using WeChat as a benchmark. Chris politely offers a refined definition based on MercadoLibre focusing deeply on multi-product adjacencies like payments and credit rather than broad consumer everything-apps.
Talent Recycling and Ecosystem Angel Investors 6300 Connie draws direct parallels to China's tech ecosystem, explaining how liquidity events from tech giants generate experienced angel investors. Chris agrees and contrasts value-add operators with non-value-add crypto wealth.
Ground Reality, Local Partners, and Regulatory Risk 6200 Connie shares actionable primary research methods, explaining how interviewing hotel staff and waitstaff helped VCs identify breakout consumer apps in lower-tier Chinese cities. Chris validates the approach while discussing local partner reliance.
Digitizing Traditional Retail and FinTech Infrastructure 6300 Connie frames FinTech as the core infrastructure underlying emerging market innovation, which prompts Chris to ask for her take on regional fintech fragmentation across borders.
Global Adoption of Generative AI and GPT-3 3300 Connie asks high-level concluding questions about global AI adoption and personal motivations. Chris provides long, reflective insights into GPT-3 adoption among international founders and global optimism.

Statements from this episode (22)

Insight
Schroeder: Emerging markets share more similarities with each other than Silicon Valley
“I think one of the big theses that I have learned in this traveling is that which is happening among emerging markets among themselves is more shared in many cases than their compatriots in Silicon Valley or even Beijing.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 1:46
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: Last-mile logistics remains a critical bottleneck in emerging markets
“So last mile logistics is a tremendously difficult thing in most of the markets that we're talking about right now, as it has been in China as well.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 2:53
Insight
Schroeder: Emerging market founders must actively educate new consumers
“So many of the best entrepreneurs I meet are spending a fair amount of their time literally educating a consumer base that moves very quickly and rapidly, but it is still an element of something that happens there and doesn't happen with many of the companies …”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 3:22
Insight
Schroeder: Engaging trusted community leaders is critical for go-to-market in emerging markets
“One of the things that you see in emerging markets, and I see this in Africa in particularly is trust is the most important thing to be able to light up people who are the trusted community leaders. Become something which is really quite unique to these areas …”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 3:51
Assertion Partly supported
Schroeder: Careem beat Uber in the Middle East by accepting cash payments
“One of the biggest and obvious ones was they began to offer cash payments in when you finish your ride in a Korean car, because they knew that most people in the Middle East were not comfortable yet in the safety and protection of doing a digital transaction. …”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 4:42
Assertion Partly supported
Schroeder: Singapore Has 100% Smartphone Penetration But Limited Domestic Scale
“There's a hundred percent smartphone penetration in Singapore, but if you are a Singapore startup alone, there's only so much you could do.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 6:32
Insight
Schroeder: Regional Tech Platforms Scale as Aggregations of Local Businesses
“Even the big juggernauts in some of these regions have learned that they are as much an aggregation of local companies as they are just one stop shop in terms of what they offer.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 6:50
Insight
Chan: Capital abundance in emerging markets de-risks founder career decisions
“When there's so much capital that kind of floods into an ecosystem that does de-risk it to some extent.”
Connie Chan Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 7:46
Insight
Chan: Massive market sizes justify venture funding for competing startups
“Because the market's so big The pie is so large that it does actually warrant that crazy risk taking, that even if a company is already doing well, I might just give a ton of money to another competitor because if they win, the pie is so much bigger.”
Connie Chan Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 8:31
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Chan: Chinese city tier disparities far exceed US state differences
“There is such a difference between first, second, third, fourth, fifth tier city in China, a much bigger difference than in the U S from state to state. I can take a state in the Midwest, compare it to New York or California. And that difference is far less th…”
Connie Chan Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 9:16
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Emerging markets concentrate population in primary cities unlike China
“When you look at the population in a lot of even the larger countries, like places like Egypt and Indonesia and all, a large swath of the population is still in a Cairo or in a Jakarta. The second or third cities there are large, for sure, but not in the same …”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 9:45
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: Day-one international expansion failed for most emerging market startups
“I saw companies from Africa, from the Middle East and Southeast Asia that started, you know, day one going to London and started going to Different parts of the world. And I was skeptical of it at the time. And in hindsight, I I'm proven right. Right. Because …”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 11:55
Insight
Schroeder: Super apps only need four right services, not twenty
“You don't necessarily have to offer 20 things, but if you can offer four of the right things, you got a hell of a business and maybe another day you can fight to do it.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 13:01
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: MercadoLibre will stay focused on payments and credit
“But if I were a betting man, I bet you they'll be pretty focused for a while because it's really the essence of what the customer needs.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 13:54
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: India's 100 unicorns are spawning a new founder generation
“There've been a hundred unicorns in India. They're now kicking off a new generation.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 15:05
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: An uninformed crypto investor backed 14 Pakistani startups, inflating valuations
“I'm thinking about one person now who literally decided they were going to invest in 14 companies in Pakistan. They didn't really know Pakistan at all and never been there. They just assumed one of them would hit and that didn't help the ecosystem at all. I me…”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 16:34
Assertion Contradicted
Schroeder: Pakistan's top e-commerce player has $200M-$300M in GMV
“The largest e-commerce player in a market of two hundred twenty million in Pakistan right now maybe has two, three hundred million GMV.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 17:42
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Chan: VCs sourced top Chinese investments by asking service workers about apps
“There's actually stories about VCs who were able to catch some really fantastic companies in China that were targeting more like second, third, fourth tier cities. By literally just talking to waiters and waitresses and asking them, those who were working in B…”
Connie Chan Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 19:59
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Mom-and-pop shops make up 85% to 90% of emerging retail
“In retail in a many emerging markets to this day, 90%, 85% pick the market is mom and pop shops.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 22:08
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: Emerging market VCs held multi-day offsites on GPT-3 ramifications
“Every venture capitalist I met has already had a multi-day offsite to stop and reflect about what its ramifications can mean in the medium term and what it may mean, not only for their portfolios, but their theses.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 25:37
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: Emerging market startups adopt AI as fast as US startups
“All the stuff that we're hearing in American startups is happening in parallel at the exact same speed among the best entrepreneurs that I've been meeting in emerging markets.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 26:03
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: Over-regulation in emerging tech markets will trigger brain drain
“These ecosystems will thrive if the top-down institutions lean in and help them. And to the degree that they slow them down, the good news is that these are more mobile talent than ever before. They will go elsewhere. There will be brain drain.”
Chris Schroeder Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 29:18
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