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Conrad: David Sacks made wrong decisions across product and strategy at Zenefits
“I got to this point where I was convinced that you know, David was not really interested in making Zenefits successful. And, you know, almost every decision he made at the company was wrong. You know, he the decisions he made from a product perspective, from a…”
Parker Conrad: David Sacks made wrong decisions across the board at Zenefits
“David was not really interested in making Zenefits successful. You know, almost every decision he made at the company was wrong. The decisions he made from a product perspective, from a strategy perspective, the people he. Fired the people he promoted, like al…”
Conrad: Zenefits' outcome would differ if A16Z and Sacks hadn't ousted him
“If I had fought at my last company, being forced out by A-sixteen Z and David Sachs, and had stayed in place, like, if we could replay the videotape, what would the outcome for that company have been? I believe that it would have been very different”
Conrad: Zenefits investors forced his resignation by threatening lawsuits despite board control
“At my last company, I had board control and everything, but when investors sat me down and said, look, if you don't resign, we're going to sue the company, we're going to go to war with you know, suddenly you're like, crap, how do I survive that?”
Parker Conrad: Compound startups building parallel products outperform single-focus startups
“Most you know, most companies there, there's sort of a conventional wisdom around startups that you ought to do like one extremely narrow thing. And that focus is like the way to build companies. And I think that at least for Rippling, we've sort of taken the …”
Conrad: VC advice to focus is wrong; compound startups are the future
“I think, I mean, one of the sort of easiest things for usually investors to talk about is how the secret to startup success is focus, focus, focus. I think it's actually wrong. It might have been true at one point in the past. Today, the biggest problems that,…”
Conrad: Legal board control does not protect founders from VC power
“The power that investors have in companies, you can structure things so that you have board control, you can structure things so that you have voting control, none of those things actually really matter. The power that investors have over you is more than anyt…”
Conrad: Rippling aims to match competitors with 20% of R&D cost
“Our goal is, is to be able to, you know, match or really exceed in a lot of ways, the capability of the current sort of best in class products in the market with like, 20% of the R and D investment.”
Conrad: Non-Rippling companies employ double the HR, IT, and finance staff
“At almost every stage of growth, you know, companies between zero to 25 employees, companies, you know, like between 500 and a thousand employees, they have almost double the number of people in HR, IT, and finance for companies that don't use Rippling than co…”
Conrad: Early-stage software margins often look good initially but degrade with scale
“Often like early stage companies look like they have very good margins that then get worse as they scale.”
Conrad: Rippling partner products will have equal distribution to internal SKUs
“No, I think, I mean, we have a really robust partner ecosystem, and I think you know, our goal is to have you know, companies that we partner with that, that compete against internal rippling products on even footing. And not just in the sense that, you know, …”
Conrad: Meta-companies producing multiple SaaS products deserve higher valuation multiples
“Wherever you would value like sort of a singular SaaS company a company that produces like a meta company that produces, you know, that produces SaaS businesses, you know, probably should command I think a higher multiple.”
Conrad: Top VC brand names provide tangible 'magic pixie dust' for startups
“There are investors that bring this sort of brand imprimatur to a company. That, you know, immediately, you know, this firm invests, and suddenly things get easier. Like people that you email from prospective employees are more likely to respond to outreach ab…”
Conrad: Employee data is the ideal foundation for business management software
“But I actually think that, like, almost every business system a company uses is full of information about employees, and that because of that, employee data is the right foundation for sort of a broader business systems management platform.”
Conrad: Most massive tech outcomes are compound startups with broad portfolios
“If you look at the really big outcomes, most of them end up being compound companies. You look at Microsoft, Salesforce, those are all companies that succeed because they have this broad product portfolio, and because of the ways that all of these products int…”
Conrad: Compound startups underprice single-product competitors by maximizing total bundle value
“One of the biggest advantages that you have as a compound startup is that you can run circles around competitors from a pricing perspective, because you can maximize the price of your bundle rather than the price of any one SKU. And so that means you can actua…”
Conrad: Rippling exists to prove what Zenefits could have become
“A big part of how I think about Rippling is that this is a way for me to sort of prove, mostly to myself, But also to the extended community, to my friends and family, to the general public, and all that kind of stuff, that this is how things might have turned…”
Conrad: Rippling will become the Salesforce for employee data
“I think Rippling is going to be the Salesforce for employee data.”
Conrad: Founders should reject false trade-offs between speed and quality
“People come, come to you and they wanna do what I call like the CEO in a box where they sort of say, look, we can do A or B. Like, would you, do you want us to do A or do you want us to do B? We can do it quickly or we can do it high quality. We can do this th…”
Conrad: Rippling generates millions in net new ARR monthly from cross-sells
“I mean, we have sort of millions of dollars in net new ARR every month from cross sell, which is selling, You know, existing customers on new SKUs within Rippling.”
Parker Conrad: Rippling spends over 60% of revenue on R&D
“The average B to B software company between sort of a hundred to two hundred million in ARR spends about 20% Of their revenue on R and D. We spend now, I think north of 60, 60%.”
Conrad: Rippling offers employees secondary share sales whenever founders sell
“I sold some stock, not, not in our most recent round. So I didn't sell anything in the most recent round. But I sold some stock earlier on before that, before the most recent round. And when I've done so, it's always been whenever I've sold stock as a founder,…”
Conrad: Best startup executive hires come from investor networks, not recruiters
“Often like the best candidates are not ones that that you find through exec recruiters. They come in, you know, through personal networks or through through sort of like, you know, GPs and investors and things like that.”
Conrad expects Rippling to be a public company by 2027
“Five years from now? I would I would hope so. I don't, you know, and to like, just to be clear for you know, there's like no plans on any, you know, people are going to be like suddenly like timing our IPO and that's not there. It's not something that we spent…”
Conrad: Silicon Valley is wrong; failure only teaches how much it sucks
“I've had some big ups and downs, obviously, in my career, and I think there's a platitude in Silicon Valley that you learn a lot from failures, and the only thing I've ever really learned from failure is how much it sucks and how much you don't want it to happ…”
Conrad: Narrow point solution SaaS opportunities have mostly been picked over
“And so if you want to do sort of a really narrow point solution SaaS company, the odds are that someone's already done that.”
Conrad: Comparing founder-VC relationships to a marriage is weird
“The marriage thing is weird. Like, I mean, I think about the relationship that I have with my wife, and it's very different from the relationship that I have with my investors.”
Conrad: Society will view mass incarceration with horror in 100-200 years
“I'm on a very weird and opposite end of the spectrum. Which is that I think that the fact that we lock human beings in cages for these extended periods of time is such an awful thing that we're going to look back on a 102 hundred years from now with just absol…”
Conrad: Prosecutors control U.S. sentencing as 98% of cases plead out
“Because in our system, people believe, they believe falsely, that it is juries and judges that decide these sentences, and that's not true. It's prosecutors. Prosecutors decide the whole thing, because 98% of these cases don't go to trial. They plead out.”
Conrad: Employee data systems must extend beyond HR into IT and finance
“And the idea was that employee data, because it's a lot more distributed, we think, than just the HR department and HR business systems you know, companies need a system that manages employee information. In a way that's not merely just about HR that sort of a…”
Conrad: Top organization output differs by orders of magnitude, not percentages
“A lot of times I think people think that, you know, the difference between, you know, like, you know, the same set of people or the same organization, maybe it's like, if you work really hard and you sort of burn the midnight oil, maybe you get sort of, you kn…”
Conrad: Rippling launching Finance Cloud product covering cards and expenses
“We're very close to launching. And I think by the time this comes out, we'll already have launched our spend management what we call our finance cloud vertical, which is corporate cards, expense reimbursements, bill pay.”
Conrad: Offboarding inventory prompt adds $300k monthly ARR for Rippling
“That one ad unit, You know, adds, you know, 300 K a month in net new ARR for that SKU every single month, like clockwork.”
Conrad: Rippling targets 70-80% software margins, except for lower-margin payroll
“We, I mean, so most, we really target you know, we try and maintain sort of 70 to 80% software margins for all of our products. I think the biggest exception to that for us is actually payroll where you know, payroll is much lower margin for us”
Conrad says he desperately never wants to start another startup again
“Starting a company is it's a real grind for a long time. Like I desperately want to never do it again.”
Conrad: Media coverage simplistically paints founders as either heroes or villains
“The sort of media view of like founders it, it's sort of like, You're either a superhero or a supervillain, and there's only room for those two. It's like you're, you know, and there's such a like, You're either, it's either like saint or super villain and the…”
Conrad: Employee data is distributed far beyond standard HR systems
“So I think Rippling has one secret underlying insight, which is that employee data is a lot more distributed across a company than most people realize.”
Conrad: Almost all early B2B SaaS point solutions became billion-dollar companies
“And at the time, there was a question, well, how many of these companies can be billion dollar companies. The answer was like pretty much all of them as it turns out.”
Conrad: High modern VC valuations enable founders to build ambitious compound startups
“Part of why everyone said five years ago, you have to focus, focus, focus, is that was the reality. That was the sort of bite-sized chunk of risk and product that investors were willing to fund. And now in this new world where unicorn rounds are the new series…”
Conrad: Compound startup marketing must frame unified problems, not features
“You got to step back and talk about the bigger problem that ties all these different things together, rather than talking about like, well, this is a time tracking system, or this is a payroll system, or this is Single sign-on, or device management, or whateve…”
Conrad: Compound startups gain sales advantages by targeting multiple buyer personas
“One big advantage it gives you tactically from a sales and marketing perspective is when you have more products and more buyers, you actually have more people you can reach out to. And so if you happen to ping, in our case, the HR person, and they don't respon…”
Conrad: Salesforce is a compound startup built on customer records
“Salesforce is, at least for us, one of the best examples of a compound company because they're taking this underlying primitive concept of customer data, and they're saying that there are a whole bunch of systems and applications that need to be built on top o…”
Conrad: Compound startups must separate SKU churn from total logo churn
“With compound startups, you want to allow customers to churn individual products without the logo churning.”
Conrad: Board members add value by acting as emotional stabilizing forces
“And I think one of the ways that board members can be valuable is just talking people through, because it's very rarely as bad as you think it is, and also very rarely quite as good. As you think it is, of course, and being sort of a stabilizing force can be e…”
Conrad: Rippling lacked an accounting function during its Series A
“This was at a stage of the company where we had revenues and cost, but, like, in terms of, like, nailing it down, like, we did not have an accounting function, we did not have anything.”
Conrad: Rippling initiates new products by assigning internal product founders
“For us to start a new product, you know, step one is like finding someone to like be the founder of that product within Rippling. And often that person has founded a company before, but not always.”
Conrad: Ron Conway repeatedly checked on him after Zenefits departure
“I remember like Ron Conway in particular, who's often, you know, someone that, you know, people talk about as sort of just like a really genuinely decent person in, in the ecosystem, reached out repeatedly and kept wanting to check in.”
Conrad: Rippling uses semi-autonomous business units for individual products
“And so what we do is we have almost more of a business unit organizational structure where we have people leading individual cross-functional teams that are building specific products, whether, you know, in our case, that's payroll or insurance or device manag…”