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Insight
Hudack: Product teams should be 6-8 people and PMs are optional
“I think every product team should be probably between six to eight people. Most of those people should be engineers. If possible, one of those people should be a data scientist. One should be a designer. And then I think a PM is optional.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 0:10 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Respect founders who shut down with cash over burning to zero
“I can speak for myself as an angel investor. The level of respect I have for somebody who comes to me with half of the money still in the bank and just says, hey, we were wrong about this, and has a conversation either about selling the company or shutting it …”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 12:48 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Hudack argued strongly against Monzo shipping crypto products
“I argued very strongly against, against shipping crypto products. You know, I didn't think it was the right thing to do for our audience, for our user base at the time.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 47:18 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Mike Hudack: Big tech managers often fail at zero-to-one startups
“Don't mistake Good, you know, managers or ICs at a large company for people who are going to do well going from zero to one in a startup, you know, think about what that means.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 1:03:08 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Founders should not write code before establishing a theory of the world
“I really believe that before you build something, you should have a theory of the world. You should, you know, understand who your user is, what they want to accomplish. You should understand your strengths and weaknesses in doing that and have a, you know, a …”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 10:05 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Users lie in research and tell builders what they want to hear
“You can do user research along the way, but, you know, the reality is that, that users lie when you talk to them, and they will always tell you what they think you want to hear.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 10:58 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Mike Hudack: Deliveroo was late on 40% of deliveries when he joined
“We were late. 40% more, you know, 40% of the time.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 29:15 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hudack: Deliveroo's backend logistics mattered far more than consumer app
“Most of the work in Deliveroo for a really long time was actually in what we called the Delivery organization. We created an organization called Delivery, and that was core machine learning systems, dispatch systems, rider pay, rider app, all that kind of stuf…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 32:30 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Products should empower consumer trade-offs rather than restrict choices
“One of the great insights, one of the things that I really learned here was that it's so important to allow people to make their own choices. It's just so important to let people make their own choices. Like, if somebody wants a soggy burger, and you've given …”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 35:13 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hudack: 99% of Facebook users opening the "dive bar" did so by accident
“I think something like 75% of Facebook users opened the dive bar, and so, There was an argument to be made that it was a great surface to ship into. The thing is that like, 99% of those people opened it by accident.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 38:02 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: A leader's job is not always to cheerlead
“First of all, I don't think that a leader's job is always to cheerlead. I think sometimes a leader's job is to say, hey guys, we're in a really tough situation here, or-”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 53:46 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Mike Hudack: Startups should delay hiring a CPO as long as possible
“Really depends on the founder but probably very, very late. I wouldn't do it too soon. I think that the best CEOs are very product minded and should stay involved in product for as long as possible.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 1:03:59 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Product design is helping users achieve goals with minimal effort
“I think the real art of product, the true thing, is understanding what people want to achieve and helping them achieve that with the minimal amount of work.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 0:00 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hudack: Every founder I've worked with operated in 'founder mode'
“Every founder that I've worked with or for has operated in one way or another in founder mode.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 1:48 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hudack: 'Founder mode' discourse won't trigger increased bad founder behavior
“I don't think it's going to lead to, like, a dramatic increase in bad behavior.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 3:07 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hudack: Facebook is the best-run company I've ever worked at
“Facebook is still very much the best run company I have ever worked at.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 3:28 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hudack: Mark Zuckerberg personally reviewed code diffs from entry-level engineers
“Mark was always in founder mode, you know. I remember once he, like, commented on a diff. Somebody was making a change to the composer on the web, and he commented on the diff and was like, I don't like this change. It was like a, You know, he's like an entry-…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 3:50 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Developer focus time is worth far more than $100 tech accessories
“They understood that the value of the time that you were spending that day, like your focus and writing code at that moment, Was more valuable than the hundred dollars that the headphones cost. I've never seen anyone else do that, you know, before or since, bu…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 4:29 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Revitalize underperforming teams by rapidly shipping quality on unloved products
“I kind of looked around and tried to find something unloved without a team on it, where we could just very rapidly ship something where the only thing that was necessary, it didn't need to Even be successful was that everybody in the organization would say, oh…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 5:51 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Advertisers care about sales outcomes, not complex targeting tools
“They don't really want to target their ad. They don't want to think about optimization. They don't want to think about, like, they want to sell more products, you know, and so the simpler machine you can give them to do that effectively, the better.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 7:54 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Mike Hudack: Product teams should prioritize customer outcomes over shipping goals
“That team should work together against, like, clear, coherent, outcome-based goals, which are not SHIP goals, but are like, we are going to increase the, you know, the revenue that we generate for this thing by 10% is like a decent goal, but a better goal is w…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 8:48 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Product leaders often give up too early after initial product launches
“Then the thing that people often do, one of the big mistakes I think people make, is they then give up too early. So, you know, your theory of the world might be 20% wrong, but that means that it's 80% right. And one of the hardest things to do in product, I t…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 11:14 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Founders and employees know in their souls when products fail
“Well, I really believe that, you know, people in their soul know that long before you tell them that, and I think that that's true of people who are, You know, doing a bad job in a job, or it's true of people who are building a product.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 11:55 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Nice-to-have features cost more and deliver less than expected
“I think that I've learned over the years that everything which is nice to have has a higher cost than you anticipate and a lower value returned.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 15:39 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: A product is only good if unfeigned usage data proves it
“If you build something, and you give it to a bunch of people, and they don't use it, and they don't show that they enjoy it in ways that cannot be lied about, meaning they're spending time, they're moving money with it, they're, you know, talking to their frie…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 20:31 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Partly supported
Hudack: 99% of people in Spain used WhatsApp when Facebook acquired it
“When Facebook bought WhatsApp, I think 99% of people in Spain had WhatsApp. It was some of the most incredible market penetration ever.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 23:28 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Logistics apps ship fast for brand promises, not growth metrics
“At Facebook you may ship really quickly because you believe that shipping really quickly is the best way to make the graph go up. At a real time logistics company, which is moving food for people who get cranky if it doesn't arrive in 32 minutes, or 15 minutes…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 27:33 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: It is very hard not to lie to yourself with data
“It's very hard to accurately interpret data, and it's very difficult to not lie to yourself with data.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 37:34 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hudack: Data abuse occurs most frequently within customer service teams
“And I think that the places where I've seen data abuse the most is in customer service.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 38:40 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hudack: Oracle creates huge value despite enterprise sales friction
“You know, Oracle makes Micros, the point of sale software in restaurants, and oh man, you know, Oracle will come into the meeting and, you know, drop a 500 page binder on the table and say, you know, it's a 100,000 dollars to subscribe to our portal thing so t…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 40:23 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hudack: Deliveroo fundamentally has only one product—food
“Deliveroo has one product really, which is food. And then everything else is kind of a feature or a way of delivering that.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 41:04 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Unship product features that lack statistically significant impact
“The answer might be that there's no statistically significant impact, in which case you should, like, unship the thing, you know, or maybe there's something wrong with it.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 42:35 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
What-if
Hudack would have expanded Monzo globally if regulation hadn't restricted it
“I would have grown Monzo globally.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 45:07 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Expanding banking apps globally requires local teams reshaping product insights
“I suspect that the only way to truly do that successfully is to have people in the local market who take the bones of the thing, who deeply understand what has and has not worked about it, and then shape it around, like, local insights.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 46:23 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Unprepared product teams kill projects prematurely after missed launch targets
“You know, emotionally prepared for having to do that work, and if you're not emotionally prepared for doing that work then, you know, when you don't hit your goals with a launch, what happens is the team and everybody around the team who makes decisions around…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 53:08 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Turn around low team morale with quick wins and compelling mission
“Well, I think there are two things that are very important. You need to give people a win. You know, so Page Insights that we talked about earlier is an example of a win like that. You know, well, we can be proud about a thing that we shipped. And then I think…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 54:44 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Having children improves founder execution through daily resets
“I think children are one of those things that just almost always makes you better. Coming home after a long day of work and giving them a hug and having dinner with them kind of washes the day away, resets you a little bit, and then you move on and I think mak…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 58:37 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hudack: Facebook's Audience Insights required novel tech but was just nice-to-have
“It turned out to be incredibly difficult to build. It required a huge amount of novel technology. And, you know, it, like, it was a nice to have.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 14:02 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hudack: Product art sets user choice balance; data science refines it
“The art is picking the place. The science then is like evaluating, you know, in a controlled experiment, looking at the data to understand whether or not you've, Selected your point in this curve, this gradient, too far to the left or too far to the right, and…”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 37:05 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Contradicted
Hudack: Monzo's website didn't mention the word bank initially
“When I first started working there we didn't actually say the word bank anywhere on the website.”
Mike Hudack Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 47:36 Mike Hudack: How Facebook, Monzo and Deliveroo Build Great Products | E1201 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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