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Traynor: Startups will never make money filling platform gaps
“You're never gonna make money filling in the gaps in a platform.”
Traynor: Workflow depth, not technical novelty, wins B2B AI
“It's those who really understand the user workflow are the ones who actually win this, not those who kind of like, you know, straighten their glasses and say, academically, that's been possible for seven months now.”
Traynor: Expensive AI API calls compress traditional 80% SaaS gross margins
“I think a second one will just be margin compression. The B to B SaaS model, LTV, CAC dynamics, and all that sort of stuff, it does have some assumption in there of like, 80 to 90% margins. Maybe 70 to 90% margin is kind of what you expect if you're running li…”
Traynor: Startups only displace incumbents if products need a complete rebuild
“If you were to rebuild it today and you'd build none of what's there and everything would look totally different, then yeah, like it's go time, right? If you actually wish you could borrow all their servers and their sender reputation and all that sort of shit…”
Traynor: AI intent-routing will give Apple Google-like dominance over app distribution
“If they become this really nice intermediary layer where you're You don't even pick the app you launch because that is a form of user selection we don't even want in our lives. You just say the thing you want to happen and leave it to Apple to work out what sh…”
Des Traynor: Founders should avoid raising billions at astronomical valuations during market frenzies
“Here's a shit lesson that's just true, right? If you're in the weirdest capital market in history and everyone's telling you to, like, raise billions of dollars at, like, ridiculous valuations, don't do it.”
Des Traynor: True defensibility does not exist on day one for startups
“Like, real defensibility, no, it does not exist.”
Des Traynor: Scaleups cannot launch bare-bones MVPs without damaging their brand
“If intercom launches a surveys tool, which we did in March, we can't be like limping in with an MVP that doesn't work. It would actually be brand damaging. We need to like, it needs to have all of the traits of intercom.”
Des Traynor: Turning glorified Google Docs into SaaS apps is never viable
“Turning spreadsheets into SaaS apps has been a good idea forever. Turning glorified Google Docs into SaaS apps, I think, has never been a good idea.”
Des Traynor: Resume brand names rarely guarantee candidate high performance
“Probably earlier in my career, just being blinded by the logo, I think was probably the biggest thing. Like, such and such a person worked at such and such a company... But that's probably the single biggest thing is like assuming that because somebody worked …”
Des Traynor: Functional teams require varied skill levels, not just A-players
“The ingredients of a team is not like just a load of people all walking around telling each other the best. Like you actually need a mix and people come to companies to learn. And by definition, that means they're not the best. They believe they can get better…”
Traynor: Winning in AI software requires more than LLM agnosticism
“I think it's a really important attribute to be able to transition from one LLM to another. Because if somebody does unlock new power, you'll want to be able to use it very quickly. I just, I don't know. I think winning involves more than just simply being agn…”
Traynor: Conversational, action-taking AI will redefine desktop and iOS interaction models
“When Siri can be as conversational as ChatGPT and can take actions on the device, I actually think it'll change like the entire interaction model across desktop and iOS as well in huge ways.”
Des Traynor on why point solutions struggle against vendor bundling
“I generally think if you're playing in somebody else's playground and you're bringing in one little thing even if you do have a reason why your thing will be definitely better persistently and sustainably, it needs to overcome a lot just to be worth the cost o…”
Des Traynor's two-part test for evaluating genuine value in AI products
“What I look to sort of interrogate the value is just like, Is there something happening now that wasn't possible before? Or is there somebody who doesn't have to do something now that they had to do before? If the answer to either of those is yes, then I'm sor…”
Traynor: Most startup best practice advice expires after five years
“I think there is very little best practices advice in startups that actually survives more than five or six years in my opinion.”
Des Traynor: Scaling startups cannot rely exclusively on hiring top-tier talent
“You can't only hire like A++ superstars because we'll be waiting all year for our next engineer. So you start to work out ways to like scale and you say, you know what, how about the A++ person leads the team and they can hopefully drag the B person up to an A…”
Traynor: Startups should keep their physical office space slightly too small
“You always want your office to be a little bit too small, because it gets you this sort of vibrance and this kind of sense of hustle, like, this should always be a pile of work, and like, There should always be a sense of like, holy shit, we've got so much to …”
Traynor: Focusing on beating a declining competitor risks ruling over a graveyard
“Oftentimes you can find yourself ruling over a graveyard. Right. Like if we just beat Zendesk, but Zendesk is like in the current state it's in, that won't be the full realization of what Intercom can be.”
Des Traynor: Private equity software playbook increases prices and shrinks product roadmaps
“The PE cash cow playbook would look like raise prices, shrink roadmap, bring the register, package it up into a very efficient, like sort of cash producing machine and hand it over.”
Des Traynor prioritizes founder quality over idea quality in early-stage investments
“But if I had, if you're telling me I can only have one, I'll definitely pick the quality founder over the quality idea.”
Des Traynor: CAC and LTV metrics do not matter for early-stage startups
“I think all these numbers matter, but they matter at scale. They just don't matter early on.”
Des Traynor: High valuations tempt founders into grand statements over execution
“Because when you start telling, if you have to do, if you just sit down with a journalist and say, well, you're now worth whatever billion dollars they're worth. You feel obliged to say all this new shit, right? Like you feel obliged to say, well, we're actual…”
Des Traynor: Startups shouldn't market themselves as new versions of incumbents
“Most startups with marketing with B to B or B to C, they forget to say the reason, they forget to say the thing that makes them unique, that's valuable. To the users. And if they're going up against an incumbent, the worst thing they can say is like, oh, we're…”
Des Traynor: Repeat founders bring executive leadership skills, not GTM tactics
“The stuff that I would definitely bring Into the next company is not specific, like go to market tactics or like bottoms up adoption versus like going into the top of the market. It's not like marketing channels or tactics or anything. I think what it would be…”
Des Traynor: Seasoned entrepreneurs do not treat headcount as a vanity metric
“Most seasoned entrepreneurs won't do a second time or third time, whatever. They won't see headcount as a vanity metric at all.”
Des Traynor: Startups must test core differentiators before building standard infrastructure
“My advice in those cases is work on your differentiators first. So in the case of say an email client, oh, we have a new take on email. I would say, right here, here's what I believe. I believe you're a competent engineer. I believe you can work out SMTP and I…”
Traynor: Second Products Must Create Multiplicative Advantages with Core Offerings
“Is there value in doing both of these things under the same company? Like, and this is a question of like brand architecture in a sense, right? Cause if you really, if you think, Hey, I can find a second team and they're going to go and do this other thing. Wh…”
Traynor: Dedicated Competitors Signal a Feature Should Be a Standalone Product
“How are they currently solving the problem that this feature slash product solves? And if the answer is they're doing it in Excel or whatever, then yeah, you could probably argue you pull it in as a feature. If they actually have another platform where they li…”
Traynor: Product features lacking organic momentum are failing
“If it doesn't have its own momentum as a feature or product, and if you find yourself just constantly trying to push a nudge and you can't get customers to stick to it, that's generally a sign that as a feature or product, it's like, it's not working.”
Traynor: Sunsetting features requires complete code removal and 12-month notice
“You end of life, which means you stop taking on new customers. You tell all the current customers, Hey, I know you depend on this thing. It's going to fade away over 12 months. Here's our suggested like a migration path off to some other way to get it done. If…”
Des Traynor: B2B Buyers Only Care About Making or Saving Money
“This is going to sound quite reductive and it kind of is, but I have two numbers to worry about Harry. Are you going to make me money or save me money? And if so, how, and why should I believe you? And that's what the buyer wants to know. Cause they're just tr…”
Des Traynor: Follow-the-Money Forces Horizontal Software Into Enterprise B2B
“Inevitably, like, the problem with most of those use cases is, once you start to follow the money, you end up back in B to B SaaS land, right? Like, or at least B to B land anyway, right? There's not a lot of money selling software to wedding planners. There's…”
Des Traynor: Horizontal Software Products Must Pick Specific Marketing Lanes
“All of your desperate attempts to horizontalize yourself When it comes to marketing, you still need to pick a lane and say, here's what we are. Even if you're just saying it for one person, you still need to say it. Like you can't be everything to everyone. Ca…”
Des Traynor: Startups With Horizontal Runway Should Delay Moving Upmarket
“If you think you just have loads of run room horizontally in the market, so you can just keep getting more and more customers like the ones you already have. And I mean, exactly like them then I, and you don't have to change your product to do that. Then I thi…”
Des Traynor: Evaluate features by total cost of ownership, not build effort
“Every complex new feature we build has to get marketed by a marketer and has to get sold by a salesperson and supported by a support person. So you have to think about the total cost of ownership of that feature, not just how hard was it to build.”
Des Traynor: Enterprise readiness depends on backend capabilities, not visible features
“When people say, are you enterprise ready? What they actually mean is all of that stuff. And people forget to market it. People forget to like showcase that in the right places because it's not visible.”
Des Traynor: Executive hires should be made for four- to five-year stints
“It's very rare you're hiring for the rest of your life and their career. You're hiring for like chugs, you're hiring for like contracts of a season, like of like four or five years stints or whatever is generally this sort of norm.”