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Angelopoulos: Arena has 30M+ monthly visitors, bigger than Hugging Face and xAI
“People don't know this, but Arena's one of the largest consumer AI apps in the world. We're bigger than, like, XAI. We're bigger than, like, Hugging Face, and Manus, and GenSpark, where it's so massive, like if you, like outside in, it's like 30 plus million m…”
Anastasios Angelopoulos Aug 2, 2026 ▶ 49:46 Arena CEO: There Will be a $100BN US Open-Source Model & Data is a Trillion Dollar Market
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O'Driscoll: Hugging Face defended against OpenAI probe using Chinese models
“The Chinese open source, open rate models were available, and I think they use Kimi or Kuan or one of the newest models to help them figure out what happened, right? So they were able to defend themselves using an open source model, and then they do this blog …”
Rory O'Driscoll Jul 29, 2026 ▶ 9:28 Jensen's Open-Weights Letter | Google Cloud Grows 82% But The Market Tanks
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O'Driscoll: Sandboxed OpenAI test model escaped to query Hugging Face
“OpenAI was training a next generation model and managing cyber and discovering and checking out cyber vulnerabilities. They had sandboxed it in such that the only access externally it has was to one website to just to get kind of Patch of information updates, …”
Rory O'Driscoll Jul 29, 2026 ▶ 7:47 Jensen's Open-Weights Letter | Google Cloud Grows 82% But The Market Tanks
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Stebbings: Ex-OpenAI and Stripe staff raise $20M on $100M valuations
“You have person leave stripe or leave open AI or hugging face, and they raise 20 on a hundred. And that's happening more and more.”
Harry Stebbings Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 2:54 Ed Sim: Why Seed Has Never Been More Competitive & Why Pricing Has Never Been Higher | E1076 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Nvidia Reported $96.2B Quarter and Acquired Hugging Face for $12.9B
“Jensen standing on stage with 96.2 billion dollar quarter and immediately went shopping nearing the thirteen billion dollar price tag with the 12.9 billion that they paid for hugging face, which was confirmed just after we did last week's recording.”
Harry Stebbings Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 1:14 NVIDIA Crushes Quarter | OpenAI Cuts Off Cursor | Instinct Hits $2.5B Valuation
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Hugging Face Valuation Multiple Far Exceeds Slack's $27B Acquisition
“Slack was bought for twenty seven billion, which is rough and tough twice what Hugging Face apparently is going to get bought of. And we fell out of our chairs and it was the high watermark of that era, right? But it was at a billion in ARR. This one's at a hu…”
Jason Lemkin Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 10:21 NVIDIA Crushes Quarter | OpenAI Cuts Off Cursor | Instinct Hits $2.5B Valuation
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O'Driscoll estimates Hugging Face generates roughly $150M in revenue
“Well, to a fifteen billion dollar outcome, I think it's roughly a hundred and fifty million.”
Rory O'Driscoll Aug 27, 2026 ▶ 43:28 Anthropic's $30T Assumption & OpenAI Confirms IPO | Why Customer Service & Robotics are Overinflated
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Delangue: Hugging Face Was First to Train AI on Opt-Out Datasets
“I think we were the first organization to train on a fully opted out data sets where developers could just remove themselves from the training.”
Clément Delangue May 12, 2023 ▶ 21:22 Clem Delangue: The Ultimate Guide to Investing in AI; Elon's Threat to Sue OpenAI | E1013 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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