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Insight
Bendov: Traditional CRMs capture only one percent of sales reality
“This is not true. CRM doesn't have truth. The only thing that's true out there is like who your customers are, what they bought, how much they're paying you, maybe their phone numbers. Everything else is not true. It's like information that sellers are Botheri…”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 4:30 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2035
Bendov: Gong will need more engineers in 10 years despite AI productivity tools
“Well, because the business would outgrow, right? So yeah, they're using AI, like everybody, like vibe coding. Okay. That says like, you know, today, like maybe like 10, 15% productivity improvement, but the business is growing at a much faster pace. So I would…”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 1:00:19 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2030
Bendov: Gong will not eliminate the SDR role despite market trends
“Oh, we will not remove it. Like, why would we?”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 31:43 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Prediction Held up
Seat-Based SaaS Like Gong Faces Headwinds From Tech Hiring Freezes
“For Gong, I know I, we like them because they make the team more efficient, but we're also aren't hiring more salespeople and their model is seed based, and so they're not going to see as much intrinsic growth from all these companies not hiring as many salesp…”
Jean-Denis Greze Jul 21, 2023 ▶ 51:34 Jean-Denis Greze: CTO of Plaid, the $18B Fintech Startup; How to Hire, Fire & Build Great UX | E1038 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2026
Bendov: Gong will likely launch usage-based pricing next year
“Usage, that's probably coming, like, next year.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 24:22 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2030
Bendov: Gong expects to reach $1 billion ARR within a few years
“We are now working on a plan how quickly can we cross The billion in ARR, and they're like different bets, but they're not, we think within a few years we can get there.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 1:01:35 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Assertion Supported
Bendov: 99% of prospective investors rejected Gong's $6M Series A
“We raised six million. It was really hard. Like, nobody wanted to invest in us, Harry. Like, believe it or not, we struggled. Like, 99% of people said no. Passed on the opportunity. I kid you not.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 7:54 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bendov: Gong sales reps perform at 120% to 130% of quota capacity
“In Gong, we're, like, at a 130 of capacity. We perform, like well over a hundred, I don't know if it's, like, exactly a 120, a 130, well above our capacity.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 34:55 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: Late-Stage Unicorns Must Rebuild Management Teams to Survive Market Pressures
“And you know, you, I mean, I can't speak to Gong in particular, but I think all of these folks, they're gonna have to rebuild their entire management teams if they haven't already. You need, you just, it's too much for the team. Folks that I know that work at …”
Jason Lemkin Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 39:14 Jason Lemkin: PluralSight S*** the Bed & The Next IPO Candidates | E1160 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong's growth re-accelerated from zero to over 30%
“And we saw, like first there was, like, no growth. There was, like, you know, a little bit, you know, maybe, like, three percent. And then like five percent and 10% and, you know, 20% and 30% and higher, so the company is accelerating.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 39:43 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong stalled and slightly shrank in early 2023
“Yeah, that was like early, 20, 23. Absolutely. These are like dark times. We're like, even like, we're not growing, even like slightly shrinking.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 35:20 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Bendov: Gong added 1,000 sales engagement customers in a single year
“Listen, Gong, like within a year, added a thousand engagement customers.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 42:41 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Insight
Bendov: Customer complaints signal user engagement, while silence indicates apathy
“You know what's worse than no complaints? Silence. Crickets, right? Means people don't care. The ideal, the product just works amazing, and nobody complains, right? The reality, most products aren't amazing, especially on, but when people complain, it means th…”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 10:27 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Bendov: Half of Fortune 10 Companies Use Gong
“Half of the fortune 10 companies use Gong today.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 52:27 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bendov: Gong will not pay $5 million for AI engineers
“No, I mean, we're not a foundation AI company. We're an AI application. Gong uses AI. I want, like, every engineer at Gong to become excellent in AI.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 59:44 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong has retained most raised capital and isn't burning cash
“We raised a lot of money. Most of it is still in the bank. Gong is not burning cash.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 35:49 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong's 2017 deck predicted revenue AI would outgrow CRM
“Oh, I have it in my pitch deck from 2017. I said, like, revenue AI will be bigger than CRM, not because, like, it has, like, a big ego, but just the economics, like.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 21:01 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Assertion Supported
Bendov: 11 out of 12 Gong beta users converted to paying customers
“We had a dozen customers, and we reached out to all of them, and said, hey, sorry boys, the beta is over, it's time to pay. And they hated us. But, 11 out of 12 bought.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 12:00 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Assertion Partly supported
Stebbings: Gong has surpassed $400M ARR and a $7B valuation
“The company has raised over six hundred million dollars from some of the best, including Sequoia, Thrive, Salesforce, and more, and Gong has surpassed Four hundred million in ARR, and serves thousands of customers, including multiple Fortune hundreds, and is v…”
Harry Stebbings Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 0:17 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong now closes eight-figure customer contracts
“We're definitely now in the seven and eight figure ARD.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 52:17 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong operates 40 to 50 proprietary AI models alongside Claude and OpenAI
“First, like we have a lot of our own models. We have probably 40 or 50 Gong models. And then we use, like, Claude, we use, like or Sonnet, we use, like OpenAI.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 27:20 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong still uses outdated 2016 sales stages because changing them is hard
“I think our sales stages, right, for example, at Gong, like, don't make, like, the most sense. They work, but they're created, like, in 2016, and... It's just technicalities. It's like, you know, they call a presentation one, presentation two. Some of them are…”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 14:17 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mukherjee: Enterprise SaaS is currently undergoing a major rebundling cycle
“So what's going to happen is all the incumbents have obviously repositioned as AI companies now or agent companies, and they're also all bundling. Like as SaaS exploded, there was massing unbundling across sectors, definitely in the CRM space, right? You have …”
Ishan Mukherjee Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 47:32 20Sales: How the Best Sales Teams Use AI to Win Enterprise Deals | Sales Teams Will Be Dramatically Smaller | How to Ramps Sales Reps Way Faster | Why Unpaid Design Partners are BS | Why this Generation of Sales is Soft with Ishan Mukherjee @ Rox
Insight
Bonaci: Scaled Startups Ruin Future Growth If They Ignore Brand Investment
“Once you reach a certain size or scale, like if you're not investing in brand as part of like your long-term horizon or long-term bucket of bets, then you're going to screw yourself over in the future.”
George Bonaci Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 51:24 George Bonaci, VP of Growth @Ramp: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever |E1264 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Zaparde: Evaluating sales teams requires qualitative call anecdotes over pure metrics
“And it's also, I think the other big thing is it's hard to assess, right? Like product, like you can look at metrics not to say you can't in sales, but every metric you look at, the more you zoom into it, you realize like, actually, maybe you should be looking…”
Rujul Zaparde Apr 24, 2024 ▶ 23:52 Rujul Zaparde: Why Hiring Inexperienced People is Better | E1144 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Rosenberg: Gong executed an exceptional strategy in defining its market
“I think you'd have to look at Gong. I'm just amazed at what Gong's done. Now it's very common in my profession. Everybody records calls. Everybody breaks down the calls. Every sales leader leverages the application. So kudos to them for not only creating the t…”
Matt Rosenberg Oct 4, 2023 ▶ 51:27 Matt Rosenberg: Why You Should Not Hire Sales Leaders From Big Companies | E1068 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Bendov: Gong halted all feature engineering for four weeks for stability
“So we said we halted, like, all engineering work for four weeks. No features, right? Just to improve the stability and performance of the system.”
Amit Bendov Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 45:30 20VC: Why AI SDRs are BS and Do Not Work | How to Use AI in Your Sales Team and Process to Win Today | What Skills Do All New Reps Need to Have in an AI First World with Amit Bendov, CEO @ Gong
Disclosure
Notion uses Gong and Notion AI internally for sales call transcription
“We have both Gong, which records the calls and the video, but we also use Notion AI internally to transcribe those calls.”
Kim Graves Jun 27, 2025 ▶ 12:24 20Sales: How to Layer Enterprise Sales on PLG | How to Sell AI Tools To Enterprises That Are Scared | Should Reps Own Their Own Pipeline | Mistakes All Founders Make When Moving From Founder-Led to Rep-Led Sales with Kim Graves
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