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Murdock: Fireworks Is 10x Better Business Than Baseten Due to Capital Efficiency
“I bet on fireworks over base 10, 10 times better business, in my opinion, because they're more capital efficient.”
Lin Qiao: AI future will feature millions of specialized models, not AGI
“I really believe the future will not be a few small number of AGI models dominating the world. I really believe the future will be, it may be scary, but I think that's true, it will be millions of specialized models, one per application, per use case.”
Murdock: AI tokens are not commodities because model customization changes their value
“I disagree with a token as a token. That may be true at the moment with pretty much frontier models, but I disagree with it because companies like fireworks and others are helping companies to customize. The more you customize the model, the more the token cha…”
Lin Qiao: The future of AI is private, specialized intelligence
“We believe the future of the frontier of the intelligence, actually private intelligence, our specialized intelligence.”
Lin Qiao: Fireworks runs distributed RL across 5-6 global data center regions
“We've designed a fully distributed system. We run across five, six data center regions globally, and tap into scattered GPUs, and they are able to run massive jobs, our jobs.”
Stebbings: Fireworks can become a $500 billion company
“If so, fireworks, honestly, It can be a five hundred billion dollar company.”
Lin Qiao: All major AI coding companies use Fireworks infrastructure
“I think all major coding companies are on us.”
Qiao: Fireworks daily token count could grow 20x-100x by next year
“Anywhere ranging from 20 to a hundred X could be possible.”
Stebbings: Benchmark AI portfolio companies HeyGen, Sierra, and Fireworks hit $100M+ ARR
“McCaw over a hundred million in ARR. Hey Jen hitting a hundred million in ARR. Fireworks a hundred and forty million in ARR. Sierra with Brett Taylor over a hundred million in ARR.”
Atallah: Users run open-weight models on inference startups, not hyperscalers
“In reality, like, you know, how often do you hear people running, you know, GLM on a hyperscaler? Never. Like they're using the inference providers like fireworks and together and there's like a big list that we see doing the best job of hosting all the open w…”
Lin Qiao: Fireworks processes over 40 trillion tokens daily
“Today we process more than 40 trillion tokens a day. So majority of those tokens are coming from a customized model, not from off-the-shelf models, are coming from a customized model.”
Qiao: Anthropic relies on a single-AGI belief over specialization
“I view Anthropic as a company fully believing AGI.”
Qiao: Fireworks could optimize gross margins now but chooses rapid expansion
“If our focus is only optimized growth margin, we absolutely can do that, but we are sacrificing the speed of growth because we want to go everywhere.”
Stebbings wrote a $10M check for Fireworks after a 15-minute meeting
“This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and in the hot seat today, a founder who I wrote a ten million dollar check for after just a 15 minute meeting, Lin Kuo, founder of Fireworks.”
Qiao: Cursor was a single-digit million-dollar company before 1000x growth
“I would say Curso is the first company they have decided to work with us. Early on. I still remember when they worked with us, they were single digit million dollar. Very small. That's only two years ago. They grew by a hundred, a thousand X over two years.”
Adobe killing Fireworks drove Sketch's early success, says Figma CEO
“At the time, there were not many competitors out there that were interesting. I think Sketch, it was launched at the time, but not many people were using it. Really, fireworks being killed was what put the wind and sketches sales.”
Stebbings: AI infrastructure companies operate at mid-thirties gross margins
“We're seeing a load of businesses like your fireworks of the world, where they're at the 30% style, mid thirties margin base. And that's very different to software margins that were 65 to 80.”
Lin Qiao: Fireworks has achieved 5x to 10x inference cost reductions
“What we have seen in the past is five times to 10 times cost reduction.”
Qiao: AI model routing will evolve into fully automated self-learning systems
“We also think there's a space to build a automatic routing system that can learn by itself, and that compound with automatic tuning system eventually. We think it should all be automated, and then you can see a self-evolving system based on what flow through y…”
Qiao: Enterprise AI frontier is routing architecture, not single models
“So again, my thinking of what is the frontier is not just this one model. The frontier could be your special routing mechanism for your business, and you decompose that based on, hey, in order to fulfill this task, and you need a highly intelligent layer, mayb…”
Lin Qiao: Fireworks AI will not enter the application layer
“We absolutely are not going to move into application layer. Very clear to us.”
Lin Qiao: Most world data is private enterprise data, not public internet
“If you think intelligence is a derivative of data, then majority of the data is actually not used for training a general intelligence model. The training data is coming from public internet and the label data. Public internet is very small. Corpus of data comp…”
Fireworks achieves exact bit equivalence between AI training and inference
“Between the training system and the inference system, when models move over, We have bit equivalence. So, as in, the numerics are fully the same. We do not lose a bit of accuracy.”
Lin Qiao: Major AI base IQ leaps will occur every 9-12 months
“I see those as every year or every three quarters, there's a major leap.”
Stebbings: Fireworks AI operates at 30% to 35% gross margins
“Lynn was on the show and she was like, yeah, we're at 30, 35%. We hope to be more over time.”
Fireworks AI uses open-source models internally for hiring, finance, and coding
“So within, ah, within Firewalls, obviously, we dock for our own product. We use OpenModel to drive our recruiting process, candidate sourcing, and the feedback collection. We use OpenModel to even drive some internal finance processes. Obviously, for coding, w…”