Prediction Open AI assessment confidence: 95% certainty 3/5 debate potential 4/5

Corporate Anthropic Spend Will Reach 2x To 5x Engineer Salaries

Fred Turner · We Built Our Own Salesforce in Months. Here's Why We're Cancelling the $600K Contract | Curative CEO · Jul 18, 2026 · at 1:25:18

Fred Turner is the CEO of Curative. Host Harry Stebbings asked him to predict corporate spending on Anthropic AI tools per engineer relative to developer salaries over a three-year timeframe.

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“Between maybe two and five X would be the two and five X salary.”

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