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Fein: Pre-seed funding will never be eradicated for non-traditional founders

John Fein · 20VC: The Ultimate Episode For Emerging Managers: How To Determine How Big A Fund To Raise, What Is The Right Closing Strategy With LPs & Why We Will Not See The Eradication of Pre-Seed with John Fein, Founder & Managing Partner @ Firebrand Ventures · Oct 7, 2019 · at 22:45

John Fein is the Founder and Managing Partner of Firebrand Ventures. He addresses whether growing seed deal sizes are eliminating pre-seed funding.

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“I don't think so. I think there's always going to be a place for pre-seed, especially for those founders, maybe first-time founders, maybe founders that are not found in the typical places. I think there is always going to be a place for very early stage rounds.”

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