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Lovinsky: Product management and marketing are fundamentally the same function

Noam Lovinsky · 20Product: Is the Design Phase Dead in a World of AI | Has Claude Code Crushed Anthropic Already | What Roles of a PM Are Less and More Important with AI | How the Best Product Leaders Tell Stories with Noam Lovinsky, CPO @ Superhuman · Jan 16, 2026 · at 5:37

Noam Lovinsky, CPO at Superhuman, discusses debates in tech around organizational role consolidation between product management and marketing.

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“There's all these interesting debates right now about like, Roles collapsing and product and marketing and so on. And I just really don't see these things as separate. I see product and marketing and, you know, it's the same thing.”

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