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Sivulka: Capable AI agents turn user interface into a management problem

George Sivulka · George Sivulka, Co-Founder & CEO @Hebbia: The Future of Foundation Models | E1250 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings · Jan 22, 2025 · at 50:35

George Sivulka is the co-founder and CEO of Hebbia. In response to whether efficient agents make software interfaces irrelevant, he explains why agent scale creates a massive orchestration problem.

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“The better agents are, the more work that they do, the more important it will be that they are easily understood by humans. The idea would be, okay, let's say we have a bunch of employees, 10,000 employees, or 10,000 AI agents drop at a company. They're all experts at doing something. That ends up not becoming a you know, a problem of giving them the right tasks, but actually it becomes a management problem.”

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