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Jordan: Amazon was the only profitable e-commerce business due to low defensibility

Jeff Jordan · a16z GP Jeff Jordan: The Ultimate Guide to Two-Sided Marketplaces | 20VC #966 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings · Jan 16, 2023 · at 15:52

Jeff Jordan, a16z GP and former eBay and OpenTable executive, reflects on historical market returns across direct-to-consumer e-commerce companies.

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“Early on, I was a big proponent of that e-commerce was going to clean the clock of the department stores. I got the thesis half right. Share did shift. No one could make money other than Amazon because of there's just no defensibility, no barriers to entry.”

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The claim, plainly

During the early shift of market share from department stores to e-commerce, no e-commerce company other than Amazon was able to make money.

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Assessment

The claim that no e-commerce company other than Amazon was able to make money during the early shift of market share from department stores to e-commerce is false. Financial records and SEC filings show that multiple major e-commerce companies achieved sustained profitability during this period, with some predating Amazon's first profitable year. Amazon achieved its first full-year GAAP net profit in 2003, whereas eBay was continuously profitable starting in 1998 (reporting $7.27 million in net income in 1998 and $249.89 million in 2002). Additionally, direct e-commerce retailers like Blue Nile achieved full-year net profitability by 2002, and companies like Netflix, Priceline, Vistaprint, and ASOS also built sustained profitable e-commerce operations in the early-to-mid 2000s.

eBay reported continuous GAAP net profitability every year starting in 1998 ($7.27M in 1998, $48.29M in 2000, $249.89M in 2002), five years before Amazon achieved its first full-year profit in 2003.
Blue Nile, a direct-to-consumer online jewelry e-tailer, achieved full-year net profitability in 2002 ($1.2M net income) and $13.2M in 2003.
Amazon itself reported net losses every year through 2002 before achieving its first profitable year in 2003 ($35.3M net income), alongside other e-commerce companies like Netflix ($6.51M net income in 2003) and Priceline ($10.4M net income in 2003).

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"eBay" net income 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 financial statements "eBay" profitability 1998 1999 early e-commerce financial records "MercadoLibre" net income 2005 2006 2007 SEC filing "Blue Nile" profitable early e-commerce financial history "ASOS" profitability year 2001 2002 2003 2004 annual report early profitable e-commerce companies 1990s 2000s financial data "Netflix" "net income" 2003 2004 2002 10-K financial results "Priceline" OR "Booking Holdings" profitable year 2001 2002 2003 "Vistaprint" profitable net income 2001 2002 2003 2004 financial results

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