Micha Kaufman is the Founder and CEO of Fiverr. Discussing the geopolitics and regulation of frontier AI models, he compares building foundational AI to privatizing the Manhattan Project and predicts inevitable state intervention.
“What AI companies is doing right now that like the foundational companies, It's like privatizing the Manhattan Project. Ok? Alright, so imagine that they do build the atomic bomb. And now they're sitting and saying, ah, you know, I don't know, maybe we'll do it non, non-profit. Or maybe they'll say, oh, we'll license the atomic bomb to, do you see a government allowing this? Seriously? Seriously, think about that for a second. If you get to AI that cures the worst disease in the world, which actually is worth a lot of money, do you see government leaving this in private hands? If this could create the ultimate weapon? If this could be the, whatever, the ultimate solution for infinite food and energy. No way. Dude, no way.”
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