Diao: Descript's web app launch unexpectedly tanked conversion and revenue
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Sandy Diao reflects on her time leading growth at Descript, sharing how launching a web version yielded counterintuitive results because desktop app installers had higher upfront commitment.
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“Two years later, we have a web version of the app. I thought this is going to be our step function increase. Like we're just going to blow up user acquisition. Conversion rates are going to triple and I can just go on vacation after this because the growth team is going to hit all of our targets. We launch web, we drive traffic to it, conversion rates drop across the board, right? Activation goes down, monetization goes down, revenue goes down, and I'm just scratching my head wondering, like, how could this possibly happen?”
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