Wayne Chang
Co-Founder & Co-CEO, Digits · 2 appearances on the record.
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Wayne Chang is the co-founder and co-CEO of Digits, an AI-driven real-time accounting and finance platform. He previously co-founded Crashlytics, which was acquired by Twitter and later Google.
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Corporate Finance Software Competitors Require 16 Weeks to 14 Months Onboarding
“Our competitors, other people that are in the space, they're out there and they're touting that it's so quick to set up. They can get set up in as little as 16 weeks. And that's weeks. That's one of the fastest we found. Others take months or like as little as…”
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4.4 / 5
directness 4.7 · coherence 4.7 ·
precision 4.2 · compression 3.7
redirected or did not address 1 of 20 assessed questions (5%). Watch them ▸
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230 words/min while actually speaking · 10.4 um and uh per 1k words
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How the interview went all their pushback → series average →
Across 2 rated episodes:
host pushback ▾ 4/10
setup questions received 77%
host pushback: the hardest questions Harry asked, tap to play ▶ 8:46“If that's so what worked, on the flip side, maybe tougher to say, but what didn't work with Crashlytics that maybe you won't be carrying over to digits, and why don't you think it …” ▶ 10:59“What were some of the biggest challenges or maybe teething problems in the early days? And I guess, how did you overcome them?” ▶ 5:17“Does kind of hire a recruiter not kind of dehumanize the process and make it more difficult for a cultural blend?” ▶ 12:31“Does it not mean that you have to raise a, if you focus so much on kind of being that first mover, does it not mean that you have to dilute yourself significantly and raise signifi…” “Can I ask, do you not think that that stereotype of VC, which obviously very prominent today and in past, do you not think that's really an era of VC that's dying?”
when Wayne pushed back ▶ 19:47“Yeah, I mean, that's a very myopic view. I think of product design is like reducing amounts of steps. Sometimes the right answer is increasing amount of steps.” ▶ 25:04“Yeah, we didn't really choose to be in stealth. Jeff and I, we just chose not to talk about the product until it was ready for customers.” ▶ 12:42“No, it doesn't mean that at all, actually.” ▶ 29:10“I never plan out. So I can't, I can never answer that question because I don't live my life that way.”
Everything Wayne Chang said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →
Founders who stretch a $1M seed round over six years are weak
“What would be the worst for me is to hear, you know, six years from now, same entrepreneur comes back. Hey, Wayne, thanks for the million dollar check. I was able to make it last for six years. That to me is the worst type of entrepreneur because they, they're…”
Taking pitch meetings with outbound VC associates is a waste of time
“If it's an associate reaching out saying they want to talk and learn more about it, when I hear that, what I'm hearing is they're just trying to pump as much information out of you and then put into a database somewhere and send it to the partners. And those t…”
Founders should never tell VCs which other investors they are meeting
“You never reveal who you're talking to the others, because VCs will always try to back channel each other. So you says entrepreneur raising, I believe you should never reveal while you're fundraising, who else you're fundraising from. That's only to your detri…”
Back-to-Back Zoom Meetings Destroy Remote Creative Time, Says Wayne Chang
“It's really important that everyone doesn't have just zoom meetings just blocked out throughout the day. That's the worst way to work. That means you're basically replacing The best of remote, which is your ability to form around the objectives, with the worst…”
Minimizing User Cognitive Load Often Requires Maximalist Software Design
“When I do the product experiences at Digit and different flows and different things to think about, I'm building product experiences that try to give the users the best experience with the least amount of thinking, the lowest cognitive load. So these result in…”
Founders should prioritize speed and quality over cost when building
“What I believe my big bias is the two qualities you pick should be speed and quality, which means what you're giving up is the cost of it, which means it might be more expensive to produce higher quality things faster.”
Raising under $150,000 is one of the biggest mistakes founders make
“So one of the biggest mistakes I hear is entrepreneurs raising so little capital. They're saying, I just need 50,000 dollars to do this, or I'm just going to raise You know, 75, 150,000 dollars, which gives very little room for error or experimentation and giv…”
VC power dynamics and egos will never disappear despite market shifts
“I think visually it might be dying, but I think ego so much ingrained as part of human nature that I think that would never go away. It might be mass. I still know a lot of VCs that have mega power ego trips.”
Founders must force VCs to pitch their capital to the startup
“You're not selling your idea to them. You need to get them to sell their dollars to you. VCs are in the business of trying to get their capital and their money accepted by great entrepreneurs.”
Corporate Finance Software Competitors Require 16 Weeks to 14 Months Onboarding
“Our competitors, other people that are in the space, they're out there and they're touting that it's so quick to set up. They can get set up in as little as 16 weeks. And that's weeks. That's one of the fastest we found. Others take months or like as little as…”
Startups Should Only Announce News When Prepared to Capture Press Spikes
“So we always advise companies to only do announcements when there's a rational reason for the company to, like, harness the resulting attention of the press. So if you're announcing something just to announce, just so you can see your name in the news, or in t…”
Wayne Chang: Time is the primary enemy of founders and startups
“My favorite thing I believe in is the enemy Of founders and startups is time. And so what does that mean? That means every day that goes by, you're becoming old news. Every day that goes by, your burn rate just goes up. No matter what happens, if you accomplis…”
Founders without recruiters spend up to 60% of their time hiring
“With recruiters, what I hear a lot with other founders is that they would spend 40 to 60% of their time just trying to recruit the team, trying to look through the resumes, go on Craigslist, things like that.”
Hiring an early in-house recruiter accelerated Crashlytics' maturity by years
“By the time that we were four months old, we had the startup DNA profile of a startup that's about two years old.”
Wayne Chang defines the 'delta of wow' in product design
“So you're able to go ahead and create an experience that is so outside the baseline norm. The difference between that experience and what the baseline is, is the delta of wow.”
Giving VCs or partners more time lowers the likelihood of deal completion
“The more time that VC has, the more A time that a potential vendor or partner has, the worse off you are, the less likelihood of a deal completion.”
Crashlytics Reached 300 Million Monthly Active Users Within 12 Months
“Just over 12 months after launch, we hit three hundred million MAUs, and then Twitter acquired us.”
The other half of the tape: Wayne Chang's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 36 times in 16 episodes on 20VC. 2 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →
Who brings them up most Harry Stebbings 36
Statements about Wayne Chang, by other people (2)
Twitter Acquired Crashlytics for Nine Figures Before Selling to Google
“Prior to Digits, Wayne and Jeff co-founded Crashlytics, which was acquired by Twitter for a nine-figure sum in January, and then acquired from Twitter by Google in 2017.”
Digits Raised Over $32M From Benchmark, GV, and Angel Founders
“To date, Wayne and Jeff have raised over thirty-two million dollars for Digits, from some of the best in the business, including Peter Fenton at Benchmark, and Jess Verrilli at GV, and then also the most incredible base of angels, with the founders from Box, G…”
Every mention by year
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2021 8 mentions in 4 episodes 2 per episode
- 20VC: Benchmark's Peter Fenton on The Single Question That Defines The Art of Early Stage Venture, Marketing Timing Risk, Why The Oversupply of Capital Is Good & His Biggest Lessons from 12 Years On The New Relic Board
- 20VC: Basecamp CEO Jason Fried on His Relationship To Risk, Money, Vulnerability and Self-Doubt, Fantasising About Being Fired, How To Optimise Decision-Making and Minimising Regret
- 20VC: Tony Fadell "The Father of The iPod" on Mentors, Self-Doubt, Vulnerability, His Relationship To Money, Why Entrepreneurs Need to Be Coachable, Why VCs Need To Be More Direct & Why The First Trillionaire Will Innovate Around Climate Change
- 20VC: Spotify Founder Daniel Ek on Optimising Decision-Making, Structuring Effective Learning Processes, The Trials and Tribulations in The Transition From Founder To CEO & The Future of Building Prima Materia with Shakil Khan
- every mention in 2021, scene by scene →
2020 14 mentions in 7 episodes 2 per episode
- 20VC: Lessons From Working with Bill Gates, How To Lead Without Authority and The Difference Between Leadership and Management & How Fundraising Changes In A COVID World with Quentin Clark, Managing Director @ General Catalyst
- 20VC: Retool Founder, David Hsu on Why YC Is Helpful Pre Product-Market Fit but Not Post and Why VCs Are Not Helpful Pre-Product Market-Fit but are Post, Why it is Difficult to Become Unprofitable if You Set Yourself Up For Profitability Early & Why VC Th
- 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
- 20VC: Steve Blank on Why The Startup Ecosystem is Partially A Ponzi Scheme, 3 Things That Determine Startup Survival in a COVID World & Facebook: Platform vs Publisher and Where Does Their Responsibility Lie?
- 20VC: Chamath Palihapitiya on Why IPOs and Direct Listings Are Broken, Turning Social Capital Into A Combination of Berkshire Hathaway, Koch Industries and The Red Cross, Why Forecasts Are Worthless, What Creates True Defensibility & Why You Have To Be Pr
- 20VC: The Future of Subscription Media, Why Startups Need To Stop Blaming Facebook and Google & How Founders Should Think Through Customer Acquisition Channel Dependencies with Alex Mather, Founder & CEO @ The Athletic
- 20VC: Biggest Lessons From Opendoor's Scaling Journey, How To Implement Systems for Growth & The Right Way To Structure Customer Discovery Processes with Julia DeWahl, Angel Investor
- every mention in 2020, scene by scene →
2019 4 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
- 20VC: Superhuman's Rahul Vohra on How To Measure Product Market Fit, How To Construct A Process To Increase It & How To Implement A Strong Feedback and Reporting Cycle To Sustain It
- 20VC: The Transition From Founder To CEO, How To Determine When To Stretch On Price in Venture & The Benefits of Attribution for Partnership Dynamics with Jeff Richards, Managing Partner @ GGV Capital
- every mention in 2019, scene by scene →
2018 2 mentions in 2 episodes 1 per episode
- 20VC: How Great VCs Handle Themselves In An M&A Process, Why M&A Has Become The Primary Method of Exit & How The Best M&A Teams Operationalise Their Process with James Loftus, Corporate Development Lead @ Square
- 20VC: The Fundamentals Of Optimising The Fundraising Process, SAFE's vs Priced Equity Rounds & Why Hiring Is Really A Big Data Problem with Chris Hutchins, Founder @ Grove & Former Partner @ Google Ventures
- every mention in 2018, scene by scene →
Appearances (2)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| 20VC: Framework For Hiring The Best Talent 100% Remotely, Raising $32M From Benchmark and | May 1, 2020 | 8m |
| 20VC: How To Run The Perfect Fundraising Process, Why Time Kills All Deals & Why You Have | Sep 8, 2017 | 23m |