Trae Stephens

Partner, Founders Fund · 1 appearance on the record.

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Trae Stephens is a Partner at Founders Fund and the Co-founder and Executive Chairman of Anduril Industries. Previously, he was an early employee at Palantir Technologies and co-founded Sol.

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7 predictions · 10 assertions · 11 opinions · 25 insights · 8 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 17 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 5 are resolved, 3 are not yet assessed, and 9 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Trae argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported

Stephens: Founders Fund Was the First VC to Promote Being Founder-Friendly

“We were the first fund that was talking about being founder friendly”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 28:59 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Their most notable contradicted claim

Prediction Didn’t hold up

Stephens: There Will Likely Not Even Be Two Companies Like SpaceX

“There's not gonna be a hundred space X's. There's probably not going to be two space X's”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 46:46 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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Argument clarity: do they answer the question? how? →

4.4 / 5 directness 4.5 · coherence 4.8 · precision 4.2 · compression 3.9

redirected or did not address 3 of 42 assessed questions (7%). Watch them ▸

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How they sound: speaking style how? →

260 words/min while actually speaking · 20 um and uh per 1k words · 16.9 false starts per 1k · 30.2% of pauses land inside a clause

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 11,458 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

How the interview went all their pushback → series average →

Across 1 rated episode:

host pushback ▾ 5/10

pushed back at the host ▾ 4/10

setup questions received 22%

host pushback: the hardest questions Harry asked, tap to play ▶ 36:07“When you have to have this level of upside, do you not put market first above founder?” ▶ 1:04:05“Okay, but the US government has made a ton of very, very serious, severe mistakes around the types of allies they support over the years.” ▶ 17:53“How do you feel about asymmetric information there?”

when Trae pushed back ▶ 7:35“I'm not sure that it is, and I'm, I'm willing to, I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that spending your life working for a consultant firm is probably not the path to having t…” ▶ 1:02:29“Yeah, this is, this is probably like, not to put a, you know, a target on your back, Harry, but this is the most naive question that non-defense people ask, because the reality is …”

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Everything Trae Stephens said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight

Stephens: The Worst VC Deals Are Highly Competitive and Consensus-Driven

“The worst deals are the most competitive deals. They're the ones that are super consensus.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 0:12 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Institutional Seed Money Risk Lies in Pro-Rata Signaling

“This is by the way, the biggest risk of taking seed money from an institutional fund is that like doing your prorata is super lazy, doing more than your prorata is actually a signal in If you're not going to have real signal, if you don't have high conviction,…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 32:21 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Deal Memos Force VCs to Intentionally Underestimate Winners

“Having like pushing your team to do things like deal memos, for example, forces them to like put down a number that they're later going to be judged by. So the investment team is going to go back and they're going to look at that investment memo and they're go…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 35:08 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Opinion

Stephens: Repeat Founders Building Simple Enterprise SaaS Should Be Ashamed

“If you're like a multi-time successful entrepreneur and you're starting like fairly simple, trivial enterprise SAS company, like shame on you. Shame on you. Like, you need to go big. Like, have some vision for how you can impact humanity.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 37:36 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Assertion Not checkable as stated

Stephens: Top Startups Excel at Every Stage Without Late Unlocks

“If you go back and you look at the best companies in any portfolio, they were kind of the best companies at every stage. Like they were incredibly awesome at A, they were incredibly awesome at B, they were incredibly awesome at C. Very rarely do you see a comp…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 41:19 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Globalization Failed and Nuclear Deterrence Cannot Prevent Conflict

“I think like the writing has been on the wall for a while that globalization didn't really work and that traditional strategic deterrence with nuclear weapons was not going to be the only thing that drove reduction in conflict globally.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 56:15 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Prediction Open · timeframe Apr 2027

Stephens: Anduril Could Reach $100B With a Fraction of Lockheed's Revenue

“Andrew operates at higher margins, much faster growth rates. I think we could be worth Over a hundred billion dollars with a tiny fraction of Lockheed's revenue.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 1:13:11 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Opinion

Stephens: Legacy Defense Primes Face No Punishment for Defective Products

“I think that the big defense companies are constantly delivering things that don't work like they're supposed to, and they're never punished for it.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 1:13:50 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: VCs Need 500 Pitch Meetings to Master Deal Evaluation

“It takes about 500 pitch meetings before you really know what you're doing.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 12:50 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Prediction Not checkable as stated

Stephens: A Rebooted Defense Prime Could Be Worth Hundreds of Billions

“If you can actually be a next generation rebooted version of Lockheed Martin or Northrop Grumman, that company could be worth hundreds of billions of dollars.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 15:30 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Disclosure

Stephens: Founders Fund Operates Without Monday Partner Meetings

“We all run our own strategy. We don't have Monday partner meetings.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 16:29 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Assertion Not checkable as stated

Stephens: The 2024 Venture Market Is Repeating 2021 Bubble Mistakes

“And I think now in 20, 24, looking back on what happened, it's very easy in retrospect to say, Wow. We really let that get out of hand. And now we've got, we have to do a recap. We have to do a down round. We have to do all this crazy structure, but we're doin…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 24:26 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Large VC Funds Require $10B+ Winners for Economics to Work

“For large funds, the economics only really work if you have a 10 plus billion dollar winner in every fund. Or more than one in, in most cases.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 28:23 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Opinion

Stephens: Putting Multiple VC Investors on Your Board Is Stupid

“Do I think that doing that in the structure of like gather a bunch of investors on your board is the way to do it? No, I think that's really stupid.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 29:43 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Only $10B+ Winners Move the Needle for Founders Fund

“All upsize maximization. No downside protection silly. Like I think if you go back and you look at our portfolio, like whether or not we got our money back has never impacted fund performance. Like the only thing that moves the needle for a venture fund of our…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 33:15 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: 10x Potential Bets Fail to Return Large VC Funds

“The biggest lesson that I've learned from these is that there are times where I've gone in and I've said, this has 10 X potential from where it is right now, and therefore it's probably worth making a bet. And I look back on some of those investments that I've…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 34:01 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Category-Thesis VCs Arrive Too Late to Back the Monopoly

“It turns out that the core monopoly investment that won is the only one that mattered in the rest of the category matters a lot less. So if you have some vision for what the future looks like and you're looking for a company to invest in that's doing it rather…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 45:02 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Prediction Didn’t hold up

Stephens: There Will Likely Not Even Be Two Companies Like SpaceX

“There's not gonna be a hundred space X's. There's probably not going to be two space X's”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 46:46 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Opinion

Stephens: Cold War Defense Platforms Are Irrelevant in Future Conflicts

“Like, the capabilities, the huge expensive platforms that we built for competing with the Soviet Union are not particularly relevant in a future conflict with, you know, a China or an Iran.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 49:38 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Shooting $2M Missiles at $150K Drones Is Economically Broken

“Can we afford to shoot a two million dollar Patriot missile at a 150,000 dollar cruise missile or kamikaze drone? No, it doesn't make sense anymore.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 50:34 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Billionaire Co-Founders Give Defense Startups Crucial Capital Advantages

“There is a capital advantage to having a billionaire as a co-founder. At Palantir and SpaceX, certainly, it took a really, really long time To get momentum on the business side of things. And so you needed to be able to raise money through a drought.”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 52:36 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Opinion

Stephens: Mediocre Western Political Leadership Poses a Risk to Civilization

“We have really just allowed Our Western political system to just be destroyed by mediocrity. And, you know, we have our standards for our elected leaders are like bargain basement level. It's really pathetic. And I don't know what it's going to take to convinc…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 57:41 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Disclosure

Stephens: Anduril Hired a Lobbyist in Its First Week

“And that's probably the most prescient thing we did is to say, We're going to hire a lobbyist literally in the first week of the company's existence, and we're going to build the relationships that we know are going to be important for authorization and approp…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 1:00:04 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Insight

Stephens: Hard Tech Startups Require Business Co-Founders Equal to Technical Founders

“One of the most important things that I've learned about hard jack in the 10 years I've been at Founders Fund is that you have to have someone on the founding team who's as good at business as the technical founder is at the tech. There's just no way around it…”

Trae Stephens Apr 3, 2024 ▶ 1:00:53 Trae Stephens: Why No Company is Successful Because of their VC | E1135 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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Who brings them up most Harry Stebbings 16 Brian Singerman 4 Katherine Boyle 2 Delian Asparouhov 2 Keith Rabois 1