Dan Scheinman

Angel Investor & Board Member · 1 appearance on the record.

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Dan Scheinman is an early-stage angel investor best known for writing the first seed check into Zoom Video Communications. Prior to angel investing, he spent 18 years at Cisco Systems, where he served as Senior Vice President of Corporate Development and General Counsel.

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3 predictions · 5 assertions · 3 opinions · 7 insights · 2 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 8 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 0 are resolved, and 8 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

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What the tape says about how Dan argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

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No argument clarity score for Dan Scheinman: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews. Their coarse estimate from 25 exchanges on the produced feed is ≈4.5/5, shown at half point precision because the sample is small and produced tape scores higher.

Measured by listening to 5,159 words across 1 episode, but every recording we have of Dan Scheinman is the aired feed, and an editor cleaned that audio before release. Some of the hesitation was cut before we ever heard it, so read these as floors: the true rates are at least this high. These are measurements of speaking style, not scores. How it's measured →

Everything Dan Scheinman said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Older founders are more efficient in spend and thinking than younger ones
“Yes, I believe that older entrepreneurs have the same or more fire. Sometimes the younger entrepreneurs are as technically adept or more than younger entrepreneurs as They drive value. Because of their experience, they're actually more efficient, both in spend…”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 25:20 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
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Acqui-hires now yield only 1x to 1.5x returns for early investors
“What I've seen has been that, in reality, some of those transactions look a lot more like return of capital or maybe one and a half X kind of returns, and it's no longer that lucrative on that side.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 7:24 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
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Big tech is slowing acqui-hires due to internal backlash over retention
“A lot of those companies are slowing down the tech and talent deals because what they found was they were Angering their existing employee base”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 7:37 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
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More tech companies were created from 2008 to 2018 than prior history
“There have been more companies created in the last 10 years than probably the entire technology business before that”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 3:58 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
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Acqui-hires are becoming increasingly unfavorable for early-stage investors
“A lot of the large companies are no longer really thrilled with tech and talent acquisitions, and those Acquisitions are turning into less and less friendly for early investors”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 3:58 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Multi-stage VCs will abandon seed investing when the workload accumulates
“I think there's a chance that that may happen again, and as you know, these markets shift and twist and turn, and so I think there could be a chance that these guys, again, intercede, but aren't all that committed when they see how much work there is, where th…”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 9:35 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Insight
Founders should raise maximal runway before Series A to maintain leverage
“I believe that the reality is that you want as much runway as possible in order to have as much leverage when you get into that A round.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 12:27 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Disclosure
Dan Scheinman wrote a seed check to Eric Yuan before seeing a pitch
“And so at that moment, to be honest, I didn't even care what he was doing. I said, I'm going to write you a check. I'm in because you're the kind of leader that it almost doesn't matter what you're building. I believe in you. And I did write him a check”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 17:18 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Insight
Seed investing is 70% EQ and people evaluation
“Truth is, it's 70% of it is really the EQ, because this is all about the people.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 18:37 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Opinion
Dan Scheinman prefers priced rounds and SAFEs over convertible debt
“So my ideal preference is to do a price round. My second preference is to do effectively a safe. My dislike is of the convertible debt. I think it's ultimately, it's a lose-lose for both sides when things don't go so well.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 20:09 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Insight
The biggest sin in venture investing is missing outlier winners
“The biggest sin is missing that 10% deal that's the huge winner, right? Because no amount of mediocre kind of deals can make up for missing Uber or whatever, Zoom or Arista or whatever you want to say. No amount of things can make up for missing something that…”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 21:20 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Insight
Founders in top deals often ask angel investors to forego pro rata
“And the other thing that happens in good deals is the founder frequently doesn't want you to do your pro rata because they want to give the new investors as much room as possible. So I found that there's an alignment generally in the good deals that, hey, stic…”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 23:15 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Seed investing requires concentrating on a few disruptive winners
“I'm focused on finding those few companies that can provide really disruptive returns in order to be able to keep funding the business.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 4:35 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
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Dan Scheinman predicts a return to large-scale tech M&A
“So I have, for a variety of reasons, not Participated in secondaries so far, and I believe that there will be exits, that great companies eventually will exit, that we will see a return to some larger M&A in markets where it becomes so critical for some of the…”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 5:48 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Insight
Seed angels must be contrarians to compete with mega-funds like Sequoia
“So you have to be increasingly a contrarian in order to try and be successful in a world where Sequoia and others are going to be aggressive.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 9:12 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Insight
Startups need cash reserves during fundraising to prevent predatory VC pricing
“I think you need enough money so that you can achieve your milestones and achieve the mythical product market fit, and still have enough money in the bank that the VC goes, Ooh, I better invest now, rather than let them say, ooh, I'll wait this out, and I'll g…”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 13:00 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
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Eric Yuan received 2,000 resumes within a week of leaving Cisco
“Eric said to me, he said he had about, I think it was about 3000 people who worked for him, And within a week of leaving, he had 2000 resumes in his inbox of people who wanted to work for him.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 16:56 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Opinion
Overpriced seed rounds deter price-disciplined Series A investors
“There's a certain price which I think is too high because what I worry about is not that it doesn't work out numbers-wise, but I worry that it detracts or deters A-round people from actually investing. Because they are more price disciplined.”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 21:37 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Insight
Angel investors need an explicit thesis defining what deals they will avoid
“To be a successful angel investor, you have to understand that clear thesis, and that clear thesis has to tell me what kind of deals you won't do, As well as what kind of deals you will do. And you have to be prepared to defend that thesis. And I think if you …”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 26:41 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks
Disclosure
CyCognito's pitch was the best angel presentation Dan Scheinman saw since Zoom
“First, it was the single best angel presentation I had seen since Zoom”
Dan Scheinman May 21, 2018 ▶ 28:01 20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoia Seed Funds & Why Price Doesn't Matter with Dan Scheinman, Angel Investor @ Zoom & Arista Networks

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20VC: Why The Days of Spray and Pray at Seed Are Over, How To Compete In A World of Sequoi May 21, 2018 21m
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