Cyan Banister

General Partner, Long Journey Ventures · 1 appearance on the record, plus 1 compilation re-air.

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Cyan Banister is an early-stage investor, former partner at Founders Fund, and co-founder of Long Journey Ventures. She was an early backer of companies including SpaceX, Uber, Niantic, and Postmates, and previously co-founded the platform Zivity.

30statements → 9claims → 2claims resolved → 4.28/5average certainty → 2.64/5average debate potential → ≈4.5/5argument clarity, estimated → 12said about them ↓

1 supported 0 partly supported 1 contradicted 3 not yet assessed 4 not checkable as stated how the 9 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

4 predictions · 5 assertions · 2 opinions · 9 insights · 10 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 9 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, 3 are not yet assessed, and 4 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Cyan argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Cyan Banister: High taxes and safety issues drive tech exodus from California
“There's a reason startups aren't staying. There's a reason that people are fleeing. That's because of San Francisco and frankly, all of California, you can only tax people so much. And then eventually they're just like, gosh, every dollar I'm making, I take ho…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 38:46 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Cyan Banister: San Francisco DA Chesa Boudin refuses to prosecute crimes
“We have a DA, Chesta, who will not prosecute crimes. I just found out yesterday a friend of mine whose house was burglarized. The perpetrators were let out of San Quentin for COVID. They robbed his house, almost kicked in the door of his neighbor who had a chi…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 39:02 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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weighted support: a fully supported claim counts one, a partly supported claim counts half. Each filled bar is clickable and opens exactly those claims; "none yet" means nothing said at that certainty level has resolved yet

How they sound: speaking style how? →

285 words/min while actually speaking · 0 um and uh per 1k words

No argument clarity score for Cyan Banister: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews. Their coarse estimate from 28 exchanges on the produced feed is ≈4.5/5, shown at half point precision because the sample is small and produced tape scores higher.

Measured by listening to 9,875 words across 1 episode, but every recording we have of Cyan Banister is the aired feed, and an editor cleaned that audio before release. Some of the hesitation was cut before we ever heard it, so read these as floors: the true rates are at least this high. These are measurements of speaking style, not scores. How it's measured →

Everything Cyan Banister said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Contradicted
Cyan Banister: San Francisco DA Chesa Boudin refuses to prosecute crimes
“We have a DA, Chesta, who will not prosecute crimes. I just found out yesterday a friend of mine whose house was burglarized. The perpetrators were let out of San Quentin for COVID. They robbed his house, almost kicked in the door of his neighbor who had a chi…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 39:02 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Insight
Cyan Banister: Uber could not build a world-changing company by being nice
“They pushed people to move fast, break things, and challenge all regulations, etc., but in order to be Literally a world-changing company, they had to do that, and they had to have those behaviors. They weren't going to be able to do it by being nice all the t…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 17:05 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Insight
Cyan Banister: Multi-stage funds invest early to block rivals like a16z
“So it's a strategy, and it's a strategy to cut out the seed ecosystem and other Series A investors down the road. So there are certain firms like A-Six, Z, et cetera, that have ownership targets. And so if you want to ruin their chances of getting the ownershi…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 20:46 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Assertion Supported
Cyan Banister: High taxes and safety issues drive tech exodus from California
“There's a reason startups aren't staying. There's a reason that people are fleeing. That's because of San Francisco and frankly, all of California, you can only tax people so much. And then eventually they're just like, gosh, every dollar I'm making, I take ho…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 38:46 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Cyan Banister: Gun ownership and support for self-defense are surging in SF
“If anything, the silver lining of all of this is that there's more gun ownership and more people who are pro home and self-defense than ever before.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 39:57 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bannister: Overpaying VCs face weak returns and a reckoning in 7-8 years
“What's going to happen is there's going to be a reckoning and there always is one market will work itself out where people look at their returns seven, eight years from now, and they're not going to be great. I think that will create some discipline in the mar…”
Cyan Banister Feb 9, 2024 ▶ 19:28 20VC: Doug Leone, Bill Ackman, Bill Gurley and Orlando Bravo on "Does Price Matter"; When to Pay Up vs When to Stay Disciplined, The Biggest Lessons on Price Discipline from 8 of the World's Best Investors
Insight
Bannister: $250M exit with strong economics beats $1B exit with poor ownership
“A company that exits for a two hundred and fifty million dollars that you have better economics on is a better return profile than a company that exits for a billion dollars that you don't.”
Cyan Banister Feb 9, 2024 ▶ 20:28 20VC: Doug Leone, Bill Ackman, Bill Gurley and Orlando Bravo on "Does Price Matter"; When to Pay Up vs When to Stay Disciplined, The Biggest Lessons on Price Discipline from 8 of the World's Best Investors
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2030
Bannister: Weak VC returns in seven years will force market discipline
“What's going to happen is there's going to be a reckoning, and there always is one, market will work itself out, where people look at their returns seven, eight years from now, and they're not going to be great. That will create some discipline in the market.”
Cyan Banister Aug 12, 2022 ▶ 9:08 20VC: 13 of the Great Investing Minds on When to Pay Up vs When To Remain Disciplined and Walk Because the Price is too High: The Ultimate Guide to Price Sensitivity
Disclosure
Cyan Banister often evaluates founders within ten minutes of meeting them
“A lot of the times I make up my mind about the person before ever hearing about the product within that 1:10 minutes of them telling me their story.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 12:38 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Opinion
Cyan Banister: Lyft benefited from Uber doing the regulatory fist-fighting
“So Lyft has benefited from Uber, and Uber definitely helped pave the way for Lyft to exist. So Lyft had the luxury, if you will, of being the nice company with the pink colors and the fist bumping. So does that make them a better company? No. It was a duopoly,…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 17:19 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2028
Cyan Banister: High seed valuations will cause poor VC returns by 2027
“Well, what's going to happen is there's going to be a reckoning and there always is one market will work itself out where people look at their returns seven, eight years from now, and they're not going to be great.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 18:36 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cyan Banister: HQ Trivia failed entirely because of co-founder conflicts
“So that company failed entirely because of founder conflicts.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 27:08 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Insight
Bannister: A $250M exit with strong ownership beats a $1B exit
“A company that exits for two hundred and fifty million dollars that you have better economics on is a better return profile than a company that exits for a billion dollars that you don't.”
Cyan Banister Aug 12, 2022 ▶ 10:05 20VC: 13 of the Great Investing Minds on When to Pay Up vs When To Remain Disciplined and Walk Because the Price is too High: The Ultimate Guide to Price Sensitivity
Insight
Cyan Banister: Qualitative intuition and pattern matching beat data-driven investing
“I'm more qualitative, and I'm definitely driven by pattern matching, gut instinct, watching trends, reading things constantly, but it's not necessarily data-driven. I just have hunches that things are going to work, and I have a good feeling about the people w…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 9:56 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Cyan Banister will never demonize anyone for wanting to make money
“You'll never find me ever demonizing a single human being that wants to make money.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 15:50 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Insight
Cyan Banister: Sole-investor seed rounds create dangerous follow-on signaling risk
“I think having one person in one fund can be detrimental because if they don't follow on, you're kind of dead in the water.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 22:16 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cyan Banister: Nearly every venture firm issued an HQ Trivia term sheet
“So that was one of the most competitive deals that was out there. I think there wasn't a single firm that didn't issue a term sheet.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 24:54 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Insight
Cyan Banister: Spouse and sibling co-founders succeed due to shared conflict resolution
“This is why I also love husband, wife, and brother, sister, and brother, brother, sibling teams is often they've had an entire lifetime or many, many years to resolve conflicts, right?”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 26:46 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Insight
Cyan Banister: Silencing dissenting voices accelerates political radicalization to opposite extremes
“The more we try to silence other people, the more radical they're going to become. It's just going to push each other to the opposite extremes.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 33:09 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Disclosure
Banister: Wealthy on paper, cash-poor from reinvesting all exit proceeds
“Even though I'm wealthy on paper, often cash poor because I redeploy almost every dollar back into the ecosystem that I don't live off of.”
Cyan Banister Oct 28, 2022 ▶ 13:13 20VC: Chris Sacca, Chamath Palihapitiya, Gary Vee, Brad Gerstner and more on Their Relationship To Money, How It Has Changed with Time and Wealth, How They Bring Up Their Children To Engender the Same Values of Ambition and Hard Work?
Disclosure
Cyan Banister says late-stage venture investing makes her deeply unhappy
“I also discovered that I'm not cut out for late stage investing. It makes me deeply unhappy.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 5:43 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Disclosure
Cyan Banister refuses to Google search founders before meeting them
“I don't Google search people before I meet them. It's a hard and fast rule for me.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 11:59 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Disclosure
Cyan Banister asks every founder for their personal story before pitching
“The first question I ask every single founder is, tell me their story. Like, not the business. I don't want to hear about the business. I want to hear about how they got to where they are.”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 12:21 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley
Disclosure
Cyan Banister: Long Journey Ventures targets 5% ownership at the seed stage
“And so I think that at Long Journey, we're often the first check-in. We have led deals now that we're excited about, and we have to get our target ownership, which is not as bad as high. I just wouldn't say bad, but as high as some other firms are. Some need 1…”
Cyan Banister Oct 19, 2020 ▶ 19:59 20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Process, Why We Will See A Reckoning in the Early Stage Market, Her Biggest Takeaways from HQ Trivia & The Future of Silicon Valley

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
20VC: Chris Sacca, Chamath Palihapitiya, Gary Vee, Brad Gerstner and more on Their Relatio compilation Oct 28, 2022 3m
20VC: Cyan Banister on Her Relationship To Money, Risk, Her Investment Decision-Making Pro Oct 19, 2020 38m

Played on the show (2)

Episodes where a recording of Cyan Banister was played rather than Cyan taking part, or where the tape carries an address with nobody putting questions to them. Listed because the words are on the record, kept out of every score on this page because they were not said on this show. We read this off the tape: who was spoken to, who was asked something, who answered whom.

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20VC: Doug Leone, Bill Ackman, Bill Gurley and Orlando Bravo on "Does Price Matter"; When Feb 9, 2024 1m clip played
20VC: 13 of the Great Investing Minds on When to Pay Up vs When To Remain Disciplined and Aug 12, 2022 1m clip played
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