Jun 7, 2017 · 26m · 20vc

20VC: Why Cheque Size & Follow On Decision-Making Does Not Matter, Why Intelligence Is Overrated & Why You Should Do Everything You Can To Make Other People Successful with Anthony Pompliano, Founding Partner @ Full Tilt Capital

Anthony Pompliano · 17m spoken Harry Stebbings · 8m spoken
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings speaks with Anthony Pompliano, General Partner at Full Tilt Capital, about founder-centric investing, evaluating emotional intelligence over IQ, data-driven portfolio construction, and hands-on operational value creation.

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Harry as informed peer 4.0 Guest teaching 4.3 Guest disagreement 2.9 Harry pushing back 3.7
05100:0010:0020:002:15–4:59 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Anthony Pompliano's Background and Journey to Full Tilt Capital Stebbings questions whether Pomp's 90-10 founder-to-idea ratio is actually distinct from the broader 'founder-friendly' VC trend. Pomp clarifies that traditional VCs focus on founder-friendly terms while still evaluating companies 50-50, whereas Full Tilt evaluates 90-10 based on founder resilience.5:00–7:18 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Evaluating Founders: Seeking 'Gamers' and Wargaming Scenarios Stebbings quotes directly from Pomp's report regarding stress-testing founders. Pomp explains their concept of searching for 'gamers' who want the ball at the end of the game and how they use hypothetical wargaming scenarios to evaluate decision-making frameworks.7:18–11:15 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Balancing Vision and Persistence in Startup Building Stebbings challenges Pomp's pace of 39 investments in nine months, directly asking how he responds to accusations of 'spray and pray'. Pomp counters with 30-35 years of VC return data to argue that early access is the sole metric correlating to returns, claiming Full Tilt has eliminated the J-curve.11:16–14:40 · Harry as informed peer 7/10 Math vs. Intuition in Seed Stage and Proprietary Deal Flow Stebbings exhibits notable industry knowledge by citing Roger Ehrenberg, Michael Kim, Dave McClure, and an LP to challenge Pomp's mathematical model and dark deal flow claims. Pomp defends his approach by framing seed investing as probability math combined with internal incubation and serendipity.14:41–17:15 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Picking Investments vs. Building Companies Stebbings pushes on LP concerns regarding how Pomp can scale his personal time across 39 investments while maintaining operational support. Pomp responds bluntly that doubters shouldn't invest in his fund and highlights extreme examples of hands-on support like flying to Nigeria for customer research.17:15–20:45 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 The 90-Day Acceleration Framework and Operational Value-Add Stebbings brings up Andreessen Horowitz's operational value-add model to compare frameworks. Pomp outlines Full Tilt's 90-day intensive post-investment sprint focused strictly on growth before handing off founders to follow-on investors.20:45–24:46 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Quickfire Round: EQ over IQ, Reading Recommendations, and Advice In the quickfire round, Pomp delivers contrarian takes, arguing that raw intelligence is overrated compared to EQ and warning founders that VCs who promise the most post-investment help usually deliver the least.2:15–4:59 · Guest teaching 4/10 Anthony Pompliano's Background and Journey to Full Tilt Capital Stebbings questions whether Pomp's 90-10 founder-to-idea ratio is actually distinct from the broader 'founder-friendly' VC trend. Pomp clarifies that traditional VCs focus on founder-friendly terms while still evaluating companies 50-50, whereas Full Tilt evaluates 90-10 based on founder resilience.5:00–7:18 · Guest teaching 3/10 Evaluating Founders: Seeking 'Gamers' and Wargaming Scenarios Stebbings quotes directly from Pomp's report regarding stress-testing founders. Pomp explains their concept of searching for 'gamers' who want the ball at the end of the game and how they use hypothetical wargaming scenarios to evaluate decision-making frameworks.7:18–11:15 · Guest teaching 6/10 Balancing Vision and Persistence in Startup Building Stebbings challenges Pomp's pace of 39 investments in nine months, directly asking how he responds to accusations of 'spray and pray'. Pomp counters with 30-35 years of VC return data to argue that early access is the sole metric correlating to returns, claiming Full Tilt has eliminated the J-curve.11:16–14:40 · Guest teaching 4/10 Math vs. Intuition in Seed Stage and Proprietary Deal Flow Stebbings exhibits notable industry knowledge by citing Roger Ehrenberg, Michael Kim, Dave McClure, and an LP to challenge Pomp's mathematical model and dark deal flow claims. Pomp defends his approach by framing seed investing as probability math combined with internal incubation and serendipity.14:41–17:15 · Guest teaching 5/10 Picking Investments vs. Building Companies Stebbings pushes on LP concerns regarding how Pomp can scale his personal time across 39 investments while maintaining operational support. Pomp responds bluntly that doubters shouldn't invest in his fund and highlights extreme examples of hands-on support like flying to Nigeria for customer research.17:15–20:45 · Guest teaching 4/10 The 90-Day Acceleration Framework and Operational Value-Add Stebbings brings up Andreessen Horowitz's operational value-add model to compare frameworks. Pomp outlines Full Tilt's 90-day intensive post-investment sprint focused strictly on growth before handing off founders to follow-on investors.20:45–24:46 · Guest teaching 4/10 Quickfire Round: EQ over IQ, Reading Recommendations, and Advice In the quickfire round, Pomp delivers contrarian takes, arguing that raw intelligence is overrated compared to EQ and warning founders that VCs who promise the most post-investment help usually deliver the least.2:15–4:59 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Anthony Pompliano's Background and Journey to Full Tilt Capital Stebbings questions whether Pomp's 90-10 founder-to-idea ratio is actually distinct from the broader 'founder-friendly' VC trend. Pomp clarifies that traditional VCs focus on founder-friendly terms while still evaluating companies 50-50, whereas Full Tilt evaluates 90-10 based on founder resilience.5:00–7:18 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Evaluating Founders: Seeking 'Gamers' and Wargaming Scenarios Stebbings quotes directly from Pomp's report regarding stress-testing founders. Pomp explains their concept of searching for 'gamers' who want the ball at the end of the game and how they use hypothetical wargaming scenarios to evaluate decision-making frameworks.7:18–11:15 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Balancing Vision and Persistence in Startup Building Stebbings challenges Pomp's pace of 39 investments in nine months, directly asking how he responds to accusations of 'spray and pray'. Pomp counters with 30-35 years of VC return data to argue that early access is the sole metric correlating to returns, claiming Full Tilt has eliminated the J-curve.11:16–14:40 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Math vs. Intuition in Seed Stage and Proprietary Deal Flow Stebbings exhibits notable industry knowledge by citing Roger Ehrenberg, Michael Kim, Dave McClure, and an LP to challenge Pomp's mathematical model and dark deal flow claims. Pomp defends his approach by framing seed investing as probability math combined with internal incubation and serendipity.14:41–17:15 · Guest disagreement 5/10 Picking Investments vs. Building Companies Stebbings pushes on LP concerns regarding how Pomp can scale his personal time across 39 investments while maintaining operational support. Pomp responds bluntly that doubters shouldn't invest in his fund and highlights extreme examples of hands-on support like flying to Nigeria for customer research.17:15–20:45 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The 90-Day Acceleration Framework and Operational Value-Add Stebbings brings up Andreessen Horowitz's operational value-add model to compare frameworks. Pomp outlines Full Tilt's 90-day intensive post-investment sprint focused strictly on growth before handing off founders to follow-on investors.20:45–24:46 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Quickfire Round: EQ over IQ, Reading Recommendations, and Advice In the quickfire round, Pomp delivers contrarian takes, arguing that raw intelligence is overrated compared to EQ and warning founders that VCs who promise the most post-investment help usually deliver the least.2:15–4:59 · Harry pushing back 3/10 Anthony Pompliano's Background and Journey to Full Tilt Capital Stebbings questions whether Pomp's 90-10 founder-to-idea ratio is actually distinct from the broader 'founder-friendly' VC trend. Pomp clarifies that traditional VCs focus on founder-friendly terms while still evaluating companies 50-50, whereas Full Tilt evaluates 90-10 based on founder resilience.5:00–7:18 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Evaluating Founders: Seeking 'Gamers' and Wargaming Scenarios Stebbings quotes directly from Pomp's report regarding stress-testing founders. Pomp explains their concept of searching for 'gamers' who want the ball at the end of the game and how they use hypothetical wargaming scenarios to evaluate decision-making frameworks.7:18–11:15 · Harry pushing back 5/10 Balancing Vision and Persistence in Startup Building Stebbings challenges Pomp's pace of 39 investments in nine months, directly asking how he responds to accusations of 'spray and pray'. Pomp counters with 30-35 years of VC return data to argue that early access is the sole metric correlating to returns, claiming Full Tilt has eliminated the J-curve.11:16–14:40 · Harry pushing back 6/10 Math vs. Intuition in Seed Stage and Proprietary Deal Flow Stebbings exhibits notable industry knowledge by citing Roger Ehrenberg, Michael Kim, Dave McClure, and an LP to challenge Pomp's mathematical model and dark deal flow claims. Pomp defends his approach by framing seed investing as probability math combined with internal incubation and serendipity.14:41–17:15 · Harry pushing back 5/10 Picking Investments vs. Building Companies Stebbings pushes on LP concerns regarding how Pomp can scale his personal time across 39 investments while maintaining operational support. Pomp responds bluntly that doubters shouldn't invest in his fund and highlights extreme examples of hands-on support like flying to Nigeria for customer research.17:15–20:45 · Harry pushing back 3/10 The 90-Day Acceleration Framework and Operational Value-Add Stebbings brings up Andreessen Horowitz's operational value-add model to compare frameworks. Pomp outlines Full Tilt's 90-day intensive post-investment sprint focused strictly on growth before handing off founders to follow-on investors.20:45–24:46 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Quickfire Round: EQ over IQ, Reading Recommendations, and Advice In the quickfire round, Pomp delivers contrarian takes, arguing that raw intelligence is overrated compared to EQ and warning founders that VCs who promise the most post-investment help usually deliver the least.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 88.1% · guest 11.9%0:00 · Harry 88.1% · guest 11.9%3:00 · Harry 19.8% · guest 80.2%3:00 · Harry 19.8% · guest 80.2%6:00 · Harry 18.7% · guest 81.3%6:00 · Harry 18.7% · guest 81.3%9:00 · Harry 17.6% · guest 82.4%9:00 · Harry 17.6% · guest 82.4%12:00 · Harry 32.2% · guest 67.8%12:00 · Harry 32.2% · guest 67.8%15:00 · Harry 7.5% · guest 92.5%15:00 · Harry 7.5% · guest 92.5%18:00 · Harry 20.5% · guest 79.5%18:00 · Harry 20.5% · guest 79.5%21:00 · Harry 21.9% · guest 78.1%21:00 · Harry 21.9% · guest 78.1%24:00 · Harry 72% · guest 28%24:00 · Harry 72% · guest 28%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 17:16 Rejecting LP Doubts on Portfolio Scaling

Pomp forcefully dismisses LP skepticism regarding scaling operational value across dozens of portfolio companies, stating bluntly that anyone who doubts their ability shouldn't invest in the fund.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 8:40 Challenging High Deal Velocity as 'Spray and Pray'

Stebbings directly confronts Pomp with industry criticism, questioning whether completing 39 deals in nine months is merely a reckless 'spray and pray' tactic.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 9:03 Reframing VC Returns and the J-Curve

Pomp educates the host using three decades of historical venture capital data to demonstrate that check size and follow-on strategy do not drive outsized returns, arguing Full Tilt's model successfully eliminates the traditional J-curve.

Harry holds his own ▶ 11:16 Citing Top VCs on Seed Stage Math

Stebbings demonstrates deep domain expertise by citing prominent VCs like Roger Ehrenberg and Michael Kim to challenge Pomp's reliance on mathematical models in seed-stage investing.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Anthony Pompliano's Background and Journey to Full Tilt Capital 3423 Stebbings questions whether Pomp's 90-10 founder-to-idea ratio is actually distinct from the broader 'founder-friendly' VC trend. Pomp clarifies that traditional VCs focus on founder-friendly terms while still evaluating companies 50-50, whereas Full Tilt evaluates 90-10 based on founder resilience.
Evaluating Founders: Seeking 'Gamers' and Wargaming Scenarios 3312 Stebbings quotes directly from Pomp's report regarding stress-testing founders. Pomp explains their concept of searching for 'gamers' who want the ball at the end of the game and how they use hypothetical wargaming scenarios to evaluate decision-making frameworks.
Balancing Vision and Persistence in Startup Building 4645 Stebbings challenges Pomp's pace of 39 investments in nine months, directly asking how he responds to accusations of 'spray and pray'. Pomp counters with 30-35 years of VC return data to argue that early access is the sole metric correlating to returns, claiming Full Tilt has eliminated the J-curve.
Math vs. Intuition in Seed Stage and Proprietary Deal Flow 7436 Stebbings exhibits notable industry knowledge by citing Roger Ehrenberg, Michael Kim, Dave McClure, and an LP to challenge Pomp's mathematical model and dark deal flow claims. Pomp defends his approach by framing seed investing as probability math combined with internal incubation and serendipity.
Picking Investments vs. Building Companies 4555 Stebbings pushes on LP concerns regarding how Pomp can scale his personal time across 39 investments while maintaining operational support. Pomp responds bluntly that doubters shouldn't invest in his fund and highlights extreme examples of hands-on support like flying to Nigeria for customer research.
The 90-Day Acceleration Framework and Operational Value-Add 4413 Stebbings brings up Andreessen Horowitz's operational value-add model to compare frameworks. Pomp outlines Full Tilt's 90-day intensive post-investment sprint focused strictly on growth before handing off founders to follow-on investors.
Quickfire Round: EQ over IQ, Reading Recommendations, and Advice 3442 In the quickfire round, Pomp delivers contrarian takes, arguing that raw intelligence is overrated compared to EQ and warning founders that VCs who promise the most post-investment help usually deliver the least.

Statements from this episode (13)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Pompliano: 'Founder-friendly' VCs still weigh ideas 50-50 against founders
“Most of the investors who talk about being founder-friendly, they're talking about the investment terms, the way they interact with founders et cetera, but they're still making decisions based on closer to a fifty-fifty on the company idea and the founders.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 3:23
Disclosure
Pompliano: Full Tilt Capital weights decisions 90% on founders, 10% on ideas
“From our perspective, we really focus more on ninety-ten, so 90% on the founders, 10% on the idea and market.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 3:36
Disclosure
Pompliano: Full Tilt Capital usually invests at $5M valuation or lower
“We're investing incredibly early. We're talking five million dollar valuation or lower usually.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 3:47
Insight
Pompliano: Demographic diversity is the best early-stage portfolio construction strategy
“If you can get the diversification of founders, you also get the diversification of thought, perspective, industries, experiences, et cetera. And we think that's the best way to or the best way for us to build an early stage portfolio today.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 4:45
Insight
Pompliano: Wargaming hypothetical scenarios is best for evaluating founder decision-making
“In our eyes, it's to try to recreate those situations as, you know, accurately as possible. And so, by hypothetically kind of wargaming that stuff, we get, you know, at least a glimpse as to how will they handle that stuff. And then also, we get a glimpse as t…”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 7:03
Assertion Supported
Pompliano: Historical data shows check size and follow-on decisions don't drive returns
“The only thing that correlates to outsized returns across different economic boom and bust cycles is being early in the best deals, right? So check size doesn't matter. Follow-on decision-making doesn't matter.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 9:12
Disclosure
Pompliano: Early data shows Full Tilt Capital has eliminated the VC J-curve
“Our data shows that we've eliminated the J curve. So we've already had a company that was acquired that isn't public yet, and we've had no companies go out of business.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 10:27
Disclosure
Pompliano: Full Tilt invested in deals no other VCs know exist
“There's a number of deals that we've invested in, That I'm a hundred percent confident there's not another venture capitalist in the world that knows about it because we were there from day one and we know that the founders never talked to another venture capi…”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 12:53
Opinion
Pompliano: Proprietary deal flow is a misleading term driven by serendipity
“I don't think that proprietary deal flow is, I think it's a misleading term, right? I think that what ends up happening is their serendipity.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 13:49
Assertion Contradicted
Pompliano: Academic studies show VCs cannot accurately stack-rank their own portfolios
“There have been, you know, a ton of academic studies that have shown if you take an investor's portfolio and you sit them down and you say, can you please stack rank your portfolio in terms of who should have the best outcome and who should have the worst outc…”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 15:26
Disclosure
Pompliano traveled to Nigeria at his own expense for portfolio customer research
“We've got a company that I went for a week to Nigeria with the founder to go do customer research, right, on my own dime.”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 16:18
Opinion
Pompliano: Pure intelligence is overrated compared to EQ in predicting success
“I believe that Intelligence is quite overrated, and EQ is quite underrated. I think that you can be very successful by having a high EQ, and if you have intelligence as well, then you kind of just double your probability for success, but I think that most peop…”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 21:14
Insight
Pompliano: VCs who promise post-investment help are the least likely to deliver
“My alarm to every founder is the more a venture capitalist says, I'm going to be helpful after we invest, there's usually less likelihood that they will be helpful, right?”
Anthony Pompliano Jun 7, 2017 ▶ 21:48
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