Jan 20, 2017 · 28m · 20vc

20VC: Biggest Takeaways From Working With Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston, Why You Should Put Off Hiring For As Long As Possible & Why Seed Stage Investing Is All About Optimising The Top Of The Funnel with Harj Taggar, Founder & CEO @ Triplebyte

Harj Taggar · 18m spoken Harry Stebbings · 7m spoken
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Harj Taggar, co-founder and CEO of TripleByte and former Y Combinator partner. Taggar shares actionable insights on early-stage startup execution, hiring strategies, venture capital dynamics, and lessons learned from working alongside YC founders Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 29.4% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Harry as informed peer 2.4 Guest teaching 2.4 Guest disagreement 0.9 Harry pushing back 1.3
05100:0010:0020:002:17–4:42 · Harry as informed peer 1/10 Harj Taggar's Journey from UK Founder to YC Partner Harry opens with a standard setup asking Harj to share his origin story, and Harj provides a detailed narrative about his transition from UK founder to YC partner.4:48–7:45 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Working with YC Founders Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston Harry brings in a crowd-sourced question from YC partner Gary Tan, prompting Harj to explain how early office hours revealed that every startup faces mortal threats.7:45–12:06 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Balancing Internal Focus and Competitive Awareness Harry offers pushback by introducing a quote from a previous guest advocating for total internal focus, leading Harj to reframe the balance between internal focus and competitive domain knowledge.12:06–15:40 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Y Combinator's Scaling Philosophy and Vision When Harry asks if the 10 percent weekly growth myth applied to YC, Harj reframes the premise by distinguishing operator metrics from multi-year investor feedback loops.15:40–19:10 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Evaluating VCs and Optimizing Seed Stage Investing Harry prompts Harj on VC evaluation, allowing Harj to share insights on founder empathy and top-of-funnel deal flow optimization in seed stage investing.19:10–21:38 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Early Stage Hiring Strategy and Premature Scaling Risks When Harj advises putting off hiring as long as possible, Harry pushes back with a counter-scenario about VC board pressure to increase burn, which Harj validates as a risk.21:38–25:22 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Quick Fire Round with Harj Taggar Harj presents a contrarian viewpoint during the quick fire round, arguing against prioritizing personal likability and culture fit when hiring for early-stage startups.25:22–26:17 · Harry as informed peer 1/10 The Grand Vision for TripleByte Harry asks for the five-year grand vision for TripleByte, allowing Harj to describe his goal of making standard tech hiring processes obsolete.2:17–4:42 · Guest teaching 1/10 Harj Taggar's Journey from UK Founder to YC Partner Harry opens with a standard setup asking Harj to share his origin story, and Harj provides a detailed narrative about his transition from UK founder to YC partner.4:48–7:45 · Guest teaching 2/10 Working with YC Founders Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston Harry brings in a crowd-sourced question from YC partner Gary Tan, prompting Harj to explain how early office hours revealed that every startup faces mortal threats.7:45–12:06 · Guest teaching 3/10 Balancing Internal Focus and Competitive Awareness Harry offers pushback by introducing a quote from a previous guest advocating for total internal focus, leading Harj to reframe the balance between internal focus and competitive domain knowledge.12:06–15:40 · Guest teaching 4/10 Y Combinator's Scaling Philosophy and Vision When Harry asks if the 10 percent weekly growth myth applied to YC, Harj reframes the premise by distinguishing operator metrics from multi-year investor feedback loops.15:40–19:10 · Guest teaching 2/10 Evaluating VCs and Optimizing Seed Stage Investing Harry prompts Harj on VC evaluation, allowing Harj to share insights on founder empathy and top-of-funnel deal flow optimization in seed stage investing.19:10–21:38 · Guest teaching 3/10 Early Stage Hiring Strategy and Premature Scaling Risks When Harj advises putting off hiring as long as possible, Harry pushes back with a counter-scenario about VC board pressure to increase burn, which Harj validates as a risk.21:38–25:22 · Guest teaching 3/10 Quick Fire Round with Harj Taggar Harj presents a contrarian viewpoint during the quick fire round, arguing against prioritizing personal likability and culture fit when hiring for early-stage startups.25:22–26:17 · Guest teaching 1/10 The Grand Vision for TripleByte Harry asks for the five-year grand vision for TripleByte, allowing Harj to describe his goal of making standard tech hiring processes obsolete.2:17–4:42 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Harj Taggar's Journey from UK Founder to YC Partner Harry opens with a standard setup asking Harj to share his origin story, and Harj provides a detailed narrative about his transition from UK founder to YC partner.4:48–7:45 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Working with YC Founders Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston Harry brings in a crowd-sourced question from YC partner Gary Tan, prompting Harj to explain how early office hours revealed that every startup faces mortal threats.7:45–12:06 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Balancing Internal Focus and Competitive Awareness Harry offers pushback by introducing a quote from a previous guest advocating for total internal focus, leading Harj to reframe the balance between internal focus and competitive domain knowledge.12:06–15:40 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Y Combinator's Scaling Philosophy and Vision When Harry asks if the 10 percent weekly growth myth applied to YC, Harj reframes the premise by distinguishing operator metrics from multi-year investor feedback loops.15:40–19:10 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Evaluating VCs and Optimizing Seed Stage Investing Harry prompts Harj on VC evaluation, allowing Harj to share insights on founder empathy and top-of-funnel deal flow optimization in seed stage investing.19:10–21:38 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Early Stage Hiring Strategy and Premature Scaling Risks When Harj advises putting off hiring as long as possible, Harry pushes back with a counter-scenario about VC board pressure to increase burn, which Harj validates as a risk.21:38–25:22 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Quick Fire Round with Harj Taggar Harj presents a contrarian viewpoint during the quick fire round, arguing against prioritizing personal likability and culture fit when hiring for early-stage startups.25:22–26:17 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Grand Vision for TripleByte Harry asks for the five-year grand vision for TripleByte, allowing Harj to describe his goal of making standard tech hiring processes obsolete.2:17–4:42 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Harj Taggar's Journey from UK Founder to YC Partner Harry opens with a standard setup asking Harj to share his origin story, and Harj provides a detailed narrative about his transition from UK founder to YC partner.4:48–7:45 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Working with YC Founders Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston Harry brings in a crowd-sourced question from YC partner Gary Tan, prompting Harj to explain how early office hours revealed that every startup faces mortal threats.7:45–12:06 · Harry pushing back 3/10 Balancing Internal Focus and Competitive Awareness Harry offers pushback by introducing a quote from a previous guest advocating for total internal focus, leading Harj to reframe the balance between internal focus and competitive domain knowledge.12:06–15:40 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Y Combinator's Scaling Philosophy and Vision When Harry asks if the 10 percent weekly growth myth applied to YC, Harj reframes the premise by distinguishing operator metrics from multi-year investor feedback loops.15:40–19:10 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Evaluating VCs and Optimizing Seed Stage Investing Harry prompts Harj on VC evaluation, allowing Harj to share insights on founder empathy and top-of-funnel deal flow optimization in seed stage investing.19:10–21:38 · Harry pushing back 4/10 Early Stage Hiring Strategy and Premature Scaling Risks When Harj advises putting off hiring as long as possible, Harry pushes back with a counter-scenario about VC board pressure to increase burn, which Harj validates as a risk.21:38–25:22 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Quick Fire Round with Harj Taggar Harj presents a contrarian viewpoint during the quick fire round, arguing against prioritizing personal likability and culture fit when hiring for early-stage startups.25:22–26:17 · Harry pushing back 0/10 The Grand Vision for TripleByte Harry asks for the five-year grand vision for TripleByte, allowing Harj to describe his goal of making standard tech hiring processes obsolete.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 83.7% · guest 16.3%0:00 · Harry 83.7% · guest 16.3%3:00 · Harry 10.5% · guest 89.5%3:00 · Harry 10.5% · guest 89.5%6:00 · Harry 20.8% · guest 79.2%6:00 · Harry 20.8% · guest 79.2%9:00 · Harry 15.7% · guest 84.3%9:00 · Harry 15.7% · guest 84.3%12:00 · Harry 13% · guest 87%12:00 · Harry 13% · guest 87%15:00 · Harry 14.8% · guest 85.2%15:00 · Harry 14.8% · guest 85.2%18:00 · Harry 18.6% · guest 81.4%18:00 · Harry 18.6% · guest 81.4%21:00 · Harry 26.5% · guest 73.5%21:00 · Harry 26.5% · guest 73.5%24:00 · Harry 35.9% · guest 64.1%24:00 · Harry 35.9% · guest 64.1%27:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%27:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 24:30 Contrarian take on hiring for culture fit

Harj forcefully rejects the common wisdom of hiring for likability and culture fit, arguing that competency far outweighs personal rapport in high-stress startup environments.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 19:25 Host challenges delaying hiring against VC burn pressure

Harry directly challenges Harj's recommendation to delay hiring by pointing out the reality of VC investors pressuring founders to burn capital after raising.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 12:17 Reframing investor feedback loops vs startup growth metrics

Harj corrects Harry's assumption about applying weekly growth metrics to YC, educating the host on the key distinction between operator metrics and multi-year investor feedback loops.

Harry holds his own ▶ 7:45 Harry uses previous guest quote to challenge guest premise

Harry demonstrates informed host perspective by citing a previous guest's thesis to challenge Harj's views on internal focus versus competitive awareness.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Harj Taggar's Journey from UK Founder to YC Partner 1100 Harry opens with a standard setup asking Harj to share his origin story, and Harj provides a detailed narrative about his transition from UK founder to YC partner.
Working with YC Founders Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston 2200 Harry brings in a crowd-sourced question from YC partner Gary Tan, prompting Harj to explain how early office hours revealed that every startup faces mortal threats.
Balancing Internal Focus and Competitive Awareness 4313 Harry offers pushback by introducing a quote from a previous guest advocating for total internal focus, leading Harj to reframe the balance between internal focus and competitive domain knowledge.
Y Combinator's Scaling Philosophy and Vision 3412 When Harry asks if the 10 percent weekly growth myth applied to YC, Harj reframes the premise by distinguishing operator metrics from multi-year investor feedback loops.
Evaluating VCs and Optimizing Seed Stage Investing 2200 Harry prompts Harj on VC evaluation, allowing Harj to share insights on founder empathy and top-of-funnel deal flow optimization in seed stage investing.
Early Stage Hiring Strategy and Premature Scaling Risks 4324 When Harj advises putting off hiring as long as possible, Harry pushes back with a counter-scenario about VC board pressure to increase burn, which Harj validates as a risk.
Quick Fire Round with Harj Taggar 2331 Harj presents a contrarian viewpoint during the quick fire round, arguing against prioritizing personal likability and culture fit when hiring for early-stage startups.
The Grand Vision for TripleByte 1100 Harry asks for the five-year grand vision for TripleByte, allowing Harj to describe his goal of making standard tech hiring processes obsolete.

Statements from this episode (12)

Insight
Taggar: Every Startup Faces Existential Threats Despite Positive External Optics
“And what I realized is that actually what happens is no matter how problematic or screwed your startup is, Everyone always presents externally that things are going fantastically. And so as a founder, you don't often realize this, that everyone starts up at pr…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 7:10
Insight
Taggar: Internal Execution Mistakes Kill Startups Far More Often Than Competitors
“You are just far more likely to not succeed because you make a mistake internally, right? Like either you know, you build the wrong product, you don't pay enough attention to your users, you hire the wrong people, or all of these things are far more likely to …”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 8:11
Insight
Taggar: Track Competitors Only to Demonstrate Domain Expertise to Investors
“Operationally, you need to be focused on your company above all else and not be worried about Competitors, but you need to know enough about what your competitors are doing to seem like, or, you know, to generally actually have domain expertise and talk credib…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 8:59
Insight
Taggar: Raising Venture Capital Does Not Make a Startup Real
“Funding is not a, like, a prerequisite of your startup feeling real. You can raise funding but still not really feel like I have a company. The only moment you feel like you have a real company is when you have a clear set of users, and that number of users is…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 10:55
Insight
Taggar: Investor Feedback Loops Take Several Years Compared to Founders
“One of the big differences between being a founder operator versus being an investor is as an investor, you do lots of things, but ultimately, your feedback loop is several years long”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 12:18
Insight
Paul Graham: Optimal Corporate Structure Resembles a Holding Company of Autonomous Units
“He genuinely believed that the optimal structure for a giant corporation is one that's more like a holding company that's, like, composed up of lots of more autonomous units are each doing well, and each of those units has operational control and is, you know,…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 13:21
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Taggar: Y Combinator Scaled Batch Sizes to Fund All Promising Startups
“The growth of YC was Defined as of the, you know, of the applicants every cycle, we want to make sure that we're funding all the good ones. Like we never want to turn away a great company, a really promising company because we didn't have capacity to do it.”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 14:52
Insight
Taggar: Venture Investors Need Operational Experience to Develop True Founder Empathy
“I'm a pretty strong believer that operational experience is pretty important to have in investors, and the reason is, and I think this is another thing that made sort of Paul and sort of Jessica great founders of YC or great investors of Y Cominature is that t…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 15:56
Insight
Taggar: Seed Investing Success Relies on Top-of-Funnel Optimization and Word-of-Mouth
“Like a seed stage investor is really about optimizing the top of your funnel in the sense of there are only of the hundreds of deals that might be available, a hundred of potential investments that year. Only a few of them are going to go on and be meaningful,…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 17:29
Insight
Taggar: Founders Must Experience Functional Pain Before Hiring for a Role
“If you raise around prematurely, if you raise like ten million dollars before you've kind of gone through that pain, now you're under pressure to hire people, and you might not have a clear sense of exactly who you need, because every, you know, you keep using…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 20:29
Insight
Taggar: Startups Should Not Scale Their Team While Finding Product-Market Fit
“You either want to be focused with the smallest possible team on finding product market fit, or you want to be Realize you have product market fit and just be in full on growing, scaling the team and making a functioning organization. You don't want to do both…”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 21:14
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Taggar Predicts In-House Developer Recruitment Will Be Obsolete by 2022
“And so five years from now, the grand vision would be To think about like running your own hiring process versus just using triple byte as being as outdated as hiring engineers to build a database from scratch versus just using MySQL or Postgres.”
Harj Taggar Jan 20, 2017 ▶ 25:55
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