Dec 19, 2016 · 34m · 20vc
20VC: Learnings From Mary Meeker & Larry Summers, Missing Out On Uber & The Changing World of VC with Canvas Partner, Rebecca Lynn
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Rebecca Lynn, General Partner at Canvas Ventures, discussing her transition from chemical engineering to venture capital, thesis-driven investment strategies, board governance lessons from Lending Club, and key dynamics shaping modern venture capital.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 24.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Harry as informed peer 3.9 Guest teaching 5.0 Guest disagreement 1.6 Harry pushing back 2.7
speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 20:04 Rejecting the Binary Fintech Thesis
Rebecca directly challenges Harry's guest quote about fintech being limited to risk modeling or distribution, pointing out that Climate Corp was not acquired as an insurance play and adding market timing as a critical factor.
Hardest push from Harry ▶ 8:41 Challenging Thesis-Driven VC StrategyHarry refuses to accept Rebecca's praise for thesis-driven investing without question, pressing her with Gary Tan's counterargument that rigid thesis investing leads to missing major tech trends like drones.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 20:04 Exogenous Factors in Fintech InnovationRebecca corrects Harry's reductive framework by demonstrating how external market shocks, such as banks retreating post-Lehman in 2009, create the crucial operational openings for fintech companies.
Harry holds his own ▶ 8:41 Cross-Examining with Industry Expert OpinionsHarry shows high expertise by synthesizing insights from previous podcast guests to actively challenge Rebecca on the flaws of thesis-driven venture capital.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Harry as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Harry pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Podcast Interlude Jingle | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Harry opens with light intro banter about his brief three-week stint in law school. Rebecca warmly shares her personal journey from chemical engineering and NextCard to Berkeley JD/MBA and Morgenthaler. | |
| The Transition from Morgenthaler to Canvas and Thesis-Driven VC | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | Harry asks how Canvas successfully managed to spin out from Morgenthaler, framing it as a rare achievement. Rebecca explains the necessity of spinning out legacy multi-sector firms into focused brands for better LP and founder positioning. | |
| Balancing Thesis-Driven Investing with Opportunistic Deals | 6 | 5 | 3 | 5 | Harry challenges thesis-driven investing by quoting Gary Tan's claim that it leads investors to miss major trends like drones. Rebecca counters that thesis investing provides essential steerage and deal filtration, while opportunistic curiosity catches anomalies like autonomous driving. | |
| Lessons in Board Governance from Lending Club | 4 | 6 | 0 | 3 | Harry asks about board governance lessons learned alongside high-profile board members like Mary Meeker at Lending Club. Rebecca details the transition from an operational player to a board coach, emphasizing targeted help in executive recruiting without micromanaging. | |
| Executive Management Scaling and Founder Mindsets | 3 | 5 | 0 | 3 | Harry probes whether early-stage founders are capable of scaling through later growth rounds or if management churn is inevitable. Rebecca explains that early company creation and corporate scaling require distinct mindsets, praising Renaud Laplanche's intentional learning mentality. | |
| Deconstructing Fintech Innovation and Market Timing | 5 | 7 | 5 | 4 | Harry presents a guest thesis that fintech boils down to risk modeling or distribution innovation. Rebecca rejects the premise as incomplete, correcting the facts surrounding Climate Corp's acquisition and demonstrating that exogenous market timing is the true key driver. | |
| Quick-Fire Round: Books, Mentors, Fund Size, and Uber Miss | 4 | 6 | 3 | 4 | Harry guides a quick-fire round, questioning whether mega-funds make economic sense and suggesting a 150M fund size. Rebecca disagrees with his suggested fund size, explaining why 300-400M is the optimal sweet spot for LP and founder alignment. |
Statements from this episode (16)
Rebecca Lynn: Venture capital is one of few jobs that rewards ADD
“I think it's one of the few jobs in the world that reward ADD.”
Rebecca Lynn: Modern venture firms must be thesis-driven to select winners
“And the other thing we know too, is it's incredible that we believe at least is it's incredibly important, especially in this day and age to be very thesis driven because there, you know, there are hundreds of financial services, startups, for example, and how…”
Lynn Discloses Unannounced Canvas Investment in Autonomous Driving Startup
“And so my, one of my latest investments was in the autonomous driving space. It's a full autonomous driving sort of system, including the new, a new LIDAR system and the software and everything that bundles with that. And that hasn't been announced yet.”
Lynn: VC Deal Flow Is Solved, Deal Filtration Is the Real Problem
“And the other thing too, is that there is just so much out there right now. It's insane in terms of the number of deals and, you know, deal flow is, is not at all a problem. Deal filtration is your problem.”
Lynn: Fewer Than a Handful of VCs Invested in Healthcare Services in 2009
“Cost incentives were really shifting and there were less than a handful of VCs that were doing anything in healthcare services at that point in time.”
Lynn: Effective board members focus on solving a startup's single biggest problem
“Being able to figure out what that one thing is that if you help fix it will make a difference is really that I would think what being a board member is all about.”
Lynn: Board members doing operational work harms founders long-term
“And if a board member is actually doing the work, it's not good. It's like if you have a kid and you're doing their homework for them, it's not going to help them at the end of the day, take the test.”
Lynn: Early Founders Excel Because They Disliked Working in Large Corporations
“There are people that are really good At starting companies and getting them off the ground. And oftentimes the reason that they're really good at that and the reason they chose that was because they tried to be in a big company and they hated it and they were…”
Lynn: Laplanche Scaled to Public CEO via Executive Coaching and Board Feedback
“He joined YPA, YPO. He got a coach. He was Always, always coming to the board and asking, how am I doing? What's going on? And that I think was what enabled him to scale from a, you know, we're a raw startup to a public company CEO.”
Lynn: Distribution drives fintech success far more than risk modeling
“The distribution, I think, is probably more important. It's all about acquisition at the end of the day, and acquisition is incredibly important, and we've seen real innovation in fintech.”
Lynn: Canvas invested in Lending Club in Q1 2009 post-Lehman crash
“So lending club, we came in and key one of 2009 after Lehman crashed. And the, I actually sent Renaud my investing memo when I stepped off that board, and it was amazingly on in terms of why this company could be big, and it was because the banks would be asle…”
Lynn: Credit Karma offered free credit reports at zero cost via TransUnion deal
“Credit Karma had a very special deal, you know, free credit report. I worked on that product ages ago with Experian, but they truly had a free credit report and it didn't cost them anything because of their relationship they had with TransUnion.”
Lynn: Passed on early Uber investment pitch from Travis Kalanick
“The biggest miss was Uber and Travis Kalanick was actually in my office with Talking about his angel portfolio years ago, we both had a healthcare IT company. He was in Cario and I was in practice fusion. And I brought him in to talk about, you know, how we ca…”
Lynn: Optimal venture capital fund size is $300M to $400M
“No, I think it's a 300 to four hundred million dollar fund, and the reason is, A, you know, when I look at the people I really respect and admire, the Sequoias and the Benchmarks, I mean, that's what they've proven out, and I've added emergence to that mix in …”
Lynn: SVB tracks over 200 non-institutional sub-$150M VC firms in Bay Area
“Is there are, I just talked to Silicon Valley bank and they're tracking over 200 firms only in the Bay area of one hundred and fifty million dollars or more or less like 150 or less without institutional capital. So this is not even counting the number of firm…”