Jun 29, 2015 · 26m · 20vc

20 VC 049: VC is Getting Younger with Spencer Lazar @ General Catalyst Partners

Spencer Lazar · 20m spoken Harry Stebbings · 4m spoken
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Spencer Lazar, Principal at General Catalyst Partners, to explore why venture capital is increasingly embracing younger investors, how early-stage candidates can break into the industry, and where key investment opportunities lie across EdTech, FinTech, and insurance.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 16.9% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Harry as informed peer 2.4 Guest teaching 3.6 Guest disagreement 0.9 Harry pushing back 1.4
05100:0010:0020:001:23–4:47 · Harry as informed peer 1/10 Spencer Lazar's Path into Venture Capital The host asks standard background questions regarding Spencer's entry into venture capital. Spencer corrects the host's misconception that he was sourcing deals while still an undergraduate at Harvard, clarifying it was a full-time post-graduation role.4:48–7:26 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 The Changing Demographics of Venture Capital Harry demonstrates industry knowledge by bringing up Lightspeed's investment in Snapchat driven by a partner's daughter's usage. Spencer explains the differences between growth equity junior teams and early-stage venture roles.7:27–10:41 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 How Young Candidates Can Stand Out to VCs The conversation is highly collaborative as Spencer offers advice for college graduates wanting to enter venture capital. He highlights domain expertise, community leadership, and publishing opinions publicly.10:43–12:58 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Evaluating Founders and Sector Focus Harry prompts Spencer on founder traits and geography. Spencer outlines his preference against solo founders and articulates his personal investment framework as acting as a goalie and sniper across target sectors.12:58–17:10 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Opportunities and Shift in Educational Technology Harry challenges Spencer with a common industry criticism regarding poor historical returns in EdTech. Spencer rejects the premise as outdated, delivering a comprehensive breakdown of shift in distribution and skill demands backed by portfolio examples.17:10–21:08 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Pitch Deck Analysis and Market Sizing Spencer details pitch deck analysis and explains fund mathematics, showing why venture capital requires multi-billion dollar addressable markets. Harry validates the point, noting that large returns are necessary to move the needle for fund economics.21:09–25:59 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Fintech and Insurance Market Innovations Spencer outlines opportunities in fintech, insurance underwriting, and smartphone telemetry. The podcast finishes with a quick-fire lightning round covering books, hardware tech, and recent investments.1:23–4:47 · Guest teaching 3/10 Spencer Lazar's Path into Venture Capital The host asks standard background questions regarding Spencer's entry into venture capital. Spencer corrects the host's misconception that he was sourcing deals while still an undergraduate at Harvard, clarifying it was a full-time post-graduation role.4:48–7:26 · Guest teaching 3/10 The Changing Demographics of Venture Capital Harry demonstrates industry knowledge by bringing up Lightspeed's investment in Snapchat driven by a partner's daughter's usage. Spencer explains the differences between growth equity junior teams and early-stage venture roles.7:27–10:41 · Guest teaching 4/10 How Young Candidates Can Stand Out to VCs The conversation is highly collaborative as Spencer offers advice for college graduates wanting to enter venture capital. He highlights domain expertise, community leadership, and publishing opinions publicly.10:43–12:58 · Guest teaching 3/10 Evaluating Founders and Sector Focus Harry prompts Spencer on founder traits and geography. Spencer outlines his preference against solo founders and articulates his personal investment framework as acting as a goalie and sniper across target sectors.12:58–17:10 · Guest teaching 5/10 Opportunities and Shift in Educational Technology Harry challenges Spencer with a common industry criticism regarding poor historical returns in EdTech. Spencer rejects the premise as outdated, delivering a comprehensive breakdown of shift in distribution and skill demands backed by portfolio examples.17:10–21:08 · Guest teaching 4/10 Pitch Deck Analysis and Market Sizing Spencer details pitch deck analysis and explains fund mathematics, showing why venture capital requires multi-billion dollar addressable markets. Harry validates the point, noting that large returns are necessary to move the needle for fund economics.21:09–25:59 · Guest teaching 3/10 Fintech and Insurance Market Innovations Spencer outlines opportunities in fintech, insurance underwriting, and smartphone telemetry. The podcast finishes with a quick-fire lightning round covering books, hardware tech, and recent investments.1:23–4:47 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Spencer Lazar's Path into Venture Capital The host asks standard background questions regarding Spencer's entry into venture capital. Spencer corrects the host's misconception that he was sourcing deals while still an undergraduate at Harvard, clarifying it was a full-time post-graduation role.4:48–7:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Changing Demographics of Venture Capital Harry demonstrates industry knowledge by bringing up Lightspeed's investment in Snapchat driven by a partner's daughter's usage. Spencer explains the differences between growth equity junior teams and early-stage venture roles.7:27–10:41 · Guest disagreement 0/10 How Young Candidates Can Stand Out to VCs The conversation is highly collaborative as Spencer offers advice for college graduates wanting to enter venture capital. He highlights domain expertise, community leadership, and publishing opinions publicly.10:43–12:58 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Evaluating Founders and Sector Focus Harry prompts Spencer on founder traits and geography. Spencer outlines his preference against solo founders and articulates his personal investment framework as acting as a goalie and sniper across target sectors.12:58–17:10 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Opportunities and Shift in Educational Technology Harry challenges Spencer with a common industry criticism regarding poor historical returns in EdTech. Spencer rejects the premise as outdated, delivering a comprehensive breakdown of shift in distribution and skill demands backed by portfolio examples.17:10–21:08 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Pitch Deck Analysis and Market Sizing Spencer details pitch deck analysis and explains fund mathematics, showing why venture capital requires multi-billion dollar addressable markets. Harry validates the point, noting that large returns are necessary to move the needle for fund economics.21:09–25:59 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Fintech and Insurance Market Innovations Spencer outlines opportunities in fintech, insurance underwriting, and smartphone telemetry. The podcast finishes with a quick-fire lightning round covering books, hardware tech, and recent investments.1:23–4:47 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Spencer Lazar's Path into Venture Capital The host asks standard background questions regarding Spencer's entry into venture capital. Spencer corrects the host's misconception that he was sourcing deals while still an undergraduate at Harvard, clarifying it was a full-time post-graduation role.4:48–7:26 · Harry pushing back 1/10 The Changing Demographics of Venture Capital Harry demonstrates industry knowledge by bringing up Lightspeed's investment in Snapchat driven by a partner's daughter's usage. Spencer explains the differences between growth equity junior teams and early-stage venture roles.7:27–10:41 · Harry pushing back 1/10 How Young Candidates Can Stand Out to VCs The conversation is highly collaborative as Spencer offers advice for college graduates wanting to enter venture capital. He highlights domain expertise, community leadership, and publishing opinions publicly.10:43–12:58 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Evaluating Founders and Sector Focus Harry prompts Spencer on founder traits and geography. Spencer outlines his preference against solo founders and articulates his personal investment framework as acting as a goalie and sniper across target sectors.12:58–17:10 · Harry pushing back 4/10 Opportunities and Shift in Educational Technology Harry challenges Spencer with a common industry criticism regarding poor historical returns in EdTech. Spencer rejects the premise as outdated, delivering a comprehensive breakdown of shift in distribution and skill demands backed by portfolio examples.17:10–21:08 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Pitch Deck Analysis and Market Sizing Spencer details pitch deck analysis and explains fund mathematics, showing why venture capital requires multi-billion dollar addressable markets. Harry validates the point, noting that large returns are necessary to move the needle for fund economics.21:09–25:59 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Fintech and Insurance Market Innovations Spencer outlines opportunities in fintech, insurance underwriting, and smartphone telemetry. The podcast finishes with a quick-fire lightning round covering books, hardware tech, and recent investments.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 49.4% · guest 50.6%0:00 · Harry 49.4% · guest 50.6%3:00 · Harry 8.7% · guest 91.3%3:00 · Harry 8.7% · guest 91.3%6:00 · Harry 11% · guest 89%6:00 · Harry 11% · guest 89%9:00 · Harry 16.2% · guest 83.8%9:00 · Harry 16.2% · guest 83.8%12:00 · Harry 11.2% · guest 88.8%12:00 · Harry 11.2% · guest 88.8%15:00 · Harry 7.2% · guest 92.8%15:00 · Harry 7.2% · guest 92.8%18:00 · Harry 3.6% · guest 96.4%18:00 · Harry 3.6% · guest 96.4%21:00 · Harry 13.3% · guest 86.7%21:00 · Harry 13.3% · guest 86.7%24:00 · Harry 32.6% · guest 67.4%24:00 · Harry 32.6% · guest 67.4%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 12:58 Rejection of EdTech return limitations

Spencer directly counters Harry's premise that EdTech cannot yield top-tier venture returns, explaining that the skepticism is based on outdated distribution models.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 12:58 Host pushes back on EdTech viability

Harry pushes Spencer on his sector focus by citing a well-known industry belief that EdTech historically fails to produce significant VC returns.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 4:25 Correction on undergraduate sourcing

Spencer gently corrects Harry's misunderstanding that he was actively sourcing deals while attending Harvard, clarifying it was a post-grad role.

Harry holds his own ▶ 6:44 Lightspeed Snapchat deal reference

Harry demonstrates active venture knowledge by citing Lightspeed's Snapchat investment origin story involving a partner's teenage daughter.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Spencer Lazar's Path into Venture Capital 1311 The host asks standard background questions regarding Spencer's entry into venture capital. Spencer corrects the host's misconception that he was sourcing deals while still an undergraduate at Harvard, clarifying it was a full-time post-graduation role.
The Changing Demographics of Venture Capital 3311 Harry demonstrates industry knowledge by bringing up Lightspeed's investment in Snapchat driven by a partner's daughter's usage. Spencer explains the differences between growth equity junior teams and early-stage venture roles.
How Young Candidates Can Stand Out to VCs 2401 The conversation is highly collaborative as Spencer offers advice for college graduates wanting to enter venture capital. He highlights domain expertise, community leadership, and publishing opinions publicly.
Evaluating Founders and Sector Focus 2301 Harry prompts Spencer on founder traits and geography. Spencer outlines his preference against solo founders and articulates his personal investment framework as acting as a goalie and sniper across target sectors.
Opportunities and Shift in Educational Technology 4524 Harry challenges Spencer with a common industry criticism regarding poor historical returns in EdTech. Spencer rejects the premise as outdated, delivering a comprehensive breakdown of shift in distribution and skill demands backed by portfolio examples.
Pitch Deck Analysis and Market Sizing 3411 Spencer details pitch deck analysis and explains fund mathematics, showing why venture capital requires multi-billion dollar addressable markets. Harry validates the point, noting that large returns are necessary to move the needle for fund economics.
Fintech and Insurance Market Innovations 2311 Spencer outlines opportunities in fintech, insurance underwriting, and smartphone telemetry. The podcast finishes with a quick-fire lightning round covering books, hardware tech, and recent investments.

Statements from this episode (10)

Assertion Supported
Insight Venture Partners Recruited College Grads Exclusively for Deal Sourcing
“Insight Venture Partners who had a very particular model for how they built their sourcing team or their sort of deal origination team, if you will, which is that they basically recruited kids exclusively out of college from you know, somewhat notable schools …”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 2:27
Assertion Supported
Insight Partners Employed 30 People on Its Junior Team in 2015
“Today, Insight has 30 people on their junior team.”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 5:58
Assertion Supported
Lightspeed's Snapchat Investment Originated From a Partner's Daughter Using the App
“I think it was at light speed, I think, where one of the partner's daughters was on Snapchat permanently, and he was asking her what it was, and that stemmed their investment.”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 6:59
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Peter Boyce Drove General Catalyst Deal Flow by Organizing Student Entrepreneurs
“And that's what my colleague Peter Boyce did who now works at GC and was really an organizer of young talent, young entrepreneurial energy, and you know, has really been a huge driving force of value for our firm because he's brought a lot of that with him and…”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 8:29
Prediction Held up
Spencer Lazar Refuses to Invest in Solo Founders
“I definitely am not interested in solo founders.”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 11:04
Insight
Storytelling Across Sales, Fundraising, and Recruiting Defines a Great CEO
“Storytelling is sales, storytelling is fundraising, storytelling is recruiting. Those are the things, the key things that a great CEO does, and you really have to do that well.”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 11:39
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Spencer Lazar Predicted Edtech Returns and Demand Would Shift Significantly Upward
“I think the tide is really shifting and it's going to shift significantly.”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 13:57
Disclosure
General Catalyst Had Only Made One VR Investment by Mid-2015
“VR is not a place where we have made a ton of investments yet as a firm. We have one investment on the West Coast,”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 19:21
Prediction Partly held up
Spencer Lazar Predicted the First Apple Watch Would Fail
“So current version Not gonna fly, but very confident about future versions, including a front-facing camera, glucometer, you know, some form of mobile connectivity data connectivity, local processing, all those things I think if they're in place, it has a lot …”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 24:37
Opinion
Campus Job Built Student Brand Equity Where LinkedIn Fell Short
“The company has really created a brand at A place in the hiring market where LinkedIn doesn't have a huge brand yet and we believe that the first job that, the first jobs even, that a student or a kid gets are really emotional and a powerful place to build a b…”
Spencer Lazar Jun 29, 2015 ▶ 25:32
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