traditional IPO

also referred to as: traditional ipos

5 statements across 3 episodes · 2 bullish · 2 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Jul 13, 2020 by Chamath Palihapitiya · across every show →

Everything said about traditional IPO, oldest first

Jul 13, 2020 negative
Opinion
Palihapitiya: Traditional IPOs are corrupted by investment banks underpricing shares
“Traditional IPOs are very fraught with principal agent problems by the banks who try to feed cheap stock and, you know, poor price performance to other customers of theirs. Namely, the prime brokerage customers of their trading business.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Jul 13, 2020 ▶ 25:59 20VC: Chamath Palihapitiya on Why IPOs and Direct Listings Are Broken, Turning Social Capital Into A Combination of Berkshire Hathaway, Koch Industries and The Red Cross, Why Forecasts Are Worthless, What Creates True Defensibility & Why You Have To Be Pr
Jul 13, 2020 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Palihapitiya: SPACs allow forward financial forecasts while traditional IPOs ban them
“Did you know that you cannot create a forecast when you go public through a traditional IPO? No, I cannot show a multi-year projection of what you think the business can do. So there's all these arcane rules that you can work around that a SPAC solves.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Jul 13, 2020 ▶ 27:04 20VC: Chamath Palihapitiya on Why IPOs and Direct Listings Are Broken, Turning Social Capital Into A Combination of Berkshire Hathaway, Koch Industries and The Red Cross, Why Forecasts Are Worthless, What Creates True Defensibility & Why You Have To Be Pr
Dec 6, 2021 bullish
Insight
Gurley: IPOs popping 50% to 70% are far more expensive than SPACs
“You know, everyone says SPACs are expensive, but when your stock pops 50 to 70% in the IPO, that's way more expensive than a SPAC, and so it created this window.”
Bill Gurley Dec 6, 2021 ▶ 28:36 20VC: Bill Gurley and Michael Eisenberg on The First Signs of an Impending Bust, What Happens with a Market Crash, How Do Public Markets Impact Private Valuations & The Biggest Lessons from 20 Years Investing in Venture
Dec 20, 2022 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Direct listings open trading using the exact same mechanism as traditional IPOs
“I think the thing that most people don't understand Even very experienced bankers , I have to point out, the stock opens in a direct listing exactly the same way it opens in a traditional IPO, which is exactly the way it opens for already traded public compani…”
Barry McCarthy Dec 20, 2022 ▶ 11:10 Barry McCarthy: From Netflix CFO to Peloton CEO; How Netflix Beat Blockbuster | 20VC #962 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 20, 2022 bearish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Direct listings will not happen during market downturns without first-day pops
“Well, not in the current capital environment, and that's because public company shares are trading at such a steep discount, that the only way you're going to get a company public is if you essentially promise to the institutions who are going to buy the IPO, …”
Barry McCarthy Dec 20, 2022 ▶ 11:32 Barry McCarthy: From Netflix CFO to Peloton CEO; How Netflix Beat Blockbuster | 20VC #962 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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