software incumbents

4 statements across 3 episodes · 2 bullish · 1 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Nov 15, 2023 by Des Traynor · across every show →

Everything said about software incumbents, oldest first

Nov 15, 2023
Insight
Traynor: Startups only displace incumbents if products need a complete rebuild
“If you were to rebuild it today and you'd build none of what's there and everything would look totally different, then yeah, like it's go time, right? If you actually wish you could borrow all their servers and their sender reputation and all that sort of shit…”
Des Traynor Nov 15, 2023 ▶ 31:24 Des Traynor: How to Survive and Thrive in a World of OpenAI | E1082 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 15, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Traynor: AI will kill an above-average number of software incumbents
“I also think an above average number of existing incumbents are going to die too, because their world is going to get torn apart by AI.”
Des Traynor Nov 15, 2023 ▶ 27:28 Des Traynor: How to Survive and Thrive in a World of OpenAI | E1082 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 2, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Zeev: Predictions that AI will kill software incumbents are provocative BS
“So the bottom line is, I think this notion that all the incumbents are going to die, you know, this notion that is being promoted by some People who I think whose main motivation is to make provocative statements, you know and get attention as thought leaders …”
Oren Zeev Feb 2, 2026 ▶ 9:32 Oren Zeev: Why AI Growth Expectations Are BS & Won't Last? Why GPs Shouldn't Tell LPs Their Strategy
Mar 7, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Mitchell Green: Believing software incumbents will disappear is a fool's errand
“These companies aren't going anywhere. Like, the incumbents have distribution, Data and balance sheets. You know, it's a fool's errand to think all these companies are going to go away.”
Mitchell Green Mar 7, 2026 ▶ 2:07 Mitchell Green: Why 50% of VCs Should Not Exist · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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