Matan Grinberg

28 statements across 1 episodes · 12 bullish · 5 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Jun 13, 2026 by Matan Grinberg · said 7 times in 3 episodes since 2026 · across every show →

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Jun 13, 2026 negative
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Grinberg: Enterprise wasted hundreds of thousands monthly on trivial Opus queries
“One of the CIOs I was speaking with realized we've been spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per month on people asking Opus 4.8 questions like, Hey, how's it going? Like, what should, what are my macros from the food I ate today? Like, what's the weather…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 17:28 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 negative
Insight
Grinberg: Enterprises Entering 'AI Hangover' Over High Costs and Unclear ROI
“Phase three is the hangover, where you go and look at the bill, and it's like, oh my god, we are spending so much. I have no idea what the ROI is. Does this, like, is this helping our business? That's where a lot of these companies are at now”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 17:09 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 negative
Opinion
Grinberg: Solving AI code generation requires starting a company, not academia
“Eventually I realized that the way to actually solve this problem was not in academia but in the industry. And to properly solve it in the industry, you'd have to start a company.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 51:48 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Insight
Matan Grinberg proposes managing founder performance like athletic seasons
“Looking to athletes, what they do is they have in season and out of season. Maybe it's like, when you're in season, you're fucking locked in, you're not drinking, you're like optimizing all this stuff with your eight sleep, and then, you know, take a week off,…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 1:20:07 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Insight
Grinberg: Standardizing AI token spend targets across all engineers is a mistake
“In fact, I would argue that if your org has a standard number where it's like, we want every engineer to be at this percent of their salary and token use, you're probably painting with way too wide a brush.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 21:45 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 positive
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2029
Grinberg: Kirkland's $500M AI push will ultimately benefit legal AI vendors
“Now, I actually think this is good for Harvey because it's nothing like trying to do something yourself to make you realize, oh, shit, this is actually really difficult. This doesn't actually matter for us to have the in-house ability to build this ourselves. …”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 7:26 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Insight
Grinberg: AI models must be decoupled from applications for optimal incentives
“So I think what is necessary for the best outcome for the consumers Is going to be models that are separate from the applications. You, as a consumer, do not want to use applications that are provided for you by the same people that are giving you the model, b…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 1:03:02 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Disclosure
Matan Grinberg discloses leading Factory is his first-ever job
“So this is the first job I've ever had, which I think is always a funny thing to say. Cause prior to this, I was a theoretical physicist, literally never Never, like, coffee shop, any of that. Literally never have had a job. Like, never have been paid to do an…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 46:04 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinberg: Coding speed and syntax memorization no longer matter for engineers
“And the parts of engineering that become less important are funny enough, the things that the Silicon Valley has really bragged about a lot, which is like, Competition winning or like Olympiad type. Are you like as fast as possible at coding? Are you, do you m…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 28:36 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 negative
Insight
Grinberg: Institutional Math Olympiad track records can be an anti-signal in hiring
“Especially there's some high schools that, like, really focus on, like, you must do the math olympic, like, you must do this, the Amy, to then go to the IMO, and, like, this is the path to success, where actually that's kind of anti-signal, because there it's,…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 29:56 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Matan Grinberg: AI Labor Displacement Is Short-Term; Long-Term Reallocation Is Net Positive
“Short term, yes. Long term, no. Short term, yes, because it's just a shock to the system where, you know, there are all these big layoffs that are happening that are pretty aggressive, and, you know, these are 1010 of thousands of people that had a job that no…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 40:29 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2031
Grinberg: AI frontier models will remain roughly equivalent to each other
“The bare case against factory is if one model provider gets significantly better than all of the others. So basically I think a key thing for us is that all the models are going to be roughly as good as each other.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 12:05 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 positive
Opinion
Matan Grinberg: Founders should accept valuation discounts for Sequoia Capital
“So generally, yes. I mean, they're the best firm.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 58:07 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 bullish
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Grinberg: Open-source models can execute 80% to 90% of frontier AI tasks
“Probably, like, 80 to 90%. It's typically the planning that really needs the frontier models.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 22:19 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinberg: AI infrastructure is not in a long-term bubble
“Maybe there's like some short term blips, but like long term, absolutely not. Like not even close. I think there might be similar corrections to like this thing at Uber, Where, oh, we were going a little haywire. We weren't allocating it appropriately. And the…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 44:37 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Disclosure
Matan Grinberg Dropped Out of PhD to Pitch Sequoia Partnership
“There was so much momentum, I'm, you know, I, he answered my email, we got along well, I met the co-founder the next day, and I was like, you know what, fuck it. Dropped out, sent him a screenshot, and he was like, alright, you have a meeting with the Sequoia …”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 55:31 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinberg: Future AI tools will enable anyone to build anything
“The world going forward, there is going to be nothing that no one can build.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 8:35 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2029
Grinberg: Median developer AI token spend will match salary within three years
“I would say order of magnitude will probably be comparable to salary.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 22:03 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Insight
Grinberg: Corporate bloat was caused by evaluating teams on intermediate metrics
“I think part of the reason why so many organizations got so bloated is because we were in a period of time where everyone was focusing on intermediate metrics.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 6:11 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Insight
Grinberg: High-value AI tasks mirror executive decision-making, consuming few tokens
“Oftentimes, leadership makes very key decisions that determine the fate of the company, and they don't spend the most hours. Like, if you look at the human hours of a company, most human hours are not spent on making the decisions. They're on gathering data or…”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 23:00 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Insight
Grinberg: Human behavior change is the top bottleneck for enterprise AI
“I think the biggest bottleneck by far working with all these organizations is the human side of it. It's just like behavior change.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 44:58 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinberg: Top AI-era engineers will embrace sales and marketing
“The best engineers are going to be the ones that don't see sales and marketing as dirty work, but as again, an important part of the product, because as an engineer, you're no longer, you know, just your job is ship feature.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 27:46 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 positive
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Grinberg: Every Enterprise CIO Demands Model-Agnostic AI to Avoid Lock-In
“Every CIO I speak to is really keenly aware of, we cannot, you know, throw our lot in with just one model provider. We're gonna need to be agnostic.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 1:05:04 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinberg: Token, dollar, and headcount allocation will dominate C-suites within 24 months
“This resource allocation problem of token, it's not just tokens, it's like dollars, it's tokens, it's people. This is, I think, going to be the thing that over the next 24 months, every C-suite is going to be thinking about.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 5:08 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2031
Grinberg: Discrete AI model releases will be replaced by continuous updates
“I think eventually we'll stop seeing them as model releases, and they'll feel more continuous.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 13:10 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Grinberg: Anthropic is a safer IPO investment than OpenAI due to volatility
“In my mind, the answer here is, I think they're approximately equivalent. Like, to me, it doesn't really matter. The biggest reason that affects like the EV is like volatility of the company. That's the only, like, cause I think from the business perspective, …”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 1:20:46 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 positive
Insight
Grinberg: Developer experience investments yield 10x to 100x impact with AI agents
“These are all things that the best organizations at like developer experience would invest a lot of resources in, but they would do it because it makes it easier for engineers to work, easier for them to onboard. But the impact of doing that well is just like …”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 37:34 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinberg: Individual AI token spend will range from 0% to tens of thousands % of salary
“I actually think it can be as low as zero percent for some individuals, and it can be as high as like 1010 of thousands of percent for some individuals.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 20:23 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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