AI model providers

8 statements across 6 episodes · 3 bullish · 3 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Feb 24, 2025 by Steeve Morin · across every show →

Everything said about AI model providers, oldest first

Feb 24, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Morin: AI model market will resemble car makers, not winner-take-all
“Is mental model in terms of model providers, ah, they'll be like car makers. Right? There's no win or tickle. Everybody will have their own.”
Steeve Morin Feb 24, 2025 ▶ 1:08:45 Steeve Morin: Why Google Will Win the AI Arms Race & OpenAI Will Not | E1262 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 17, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: Investors backing AI models at $4B saw only 3.5x at $60B
“I know, and we both know many investors in some of the model providers who came in at four billion, it's now sixty billion and they're three and a half acts up because employee stock Dilution was so heavy, and the funding rounds coming in were so heavy.”
Harry Stebbings Apr 17, 2025 ▶ 31:37 a16z's $20BN Fund & Founders Fund's $4.6BN & Why Josh Kushner Has Mastered the Game · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 5, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Moore: AI model providers hit billions in run rate growing over 100%
“We're talking about billions of dollars of run rate growing in excess of a hundred percent year over year. I don't think we've ever seen that before, right? Like you talk about ServiceNow doing, you know, billions of dollars in ARR and growing, you know, 20, 3…”
Bucky Moore May 5, 2025 ▶ 5:39 Bucky Moore @ Lightspeed Venture Partners: Why You Cannot Do VC If You Do Not Do Pre-Seed · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Mohan: Comparing AI model providers to cloud providers is inaccurate
“So I think ultimately your, the analogy to cloud providers is not accurate right now. They don't have the same properties. It's not the same kind of business right now.”
Varun Mohan Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 50:17 Windsurf CEO & Co-Founder, Varun Mohan: AI's Biggest Acquisition to Date! · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2030
Mohan: No AI model provider will hold an untouchable monopoly
“I don't think we're anywhere near the point in which you're going to have someone who's the defining leader of having a great model and no one else can touch it for years, right?”
Varun Mohan Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 51:37 Windsurf CEO & Co-Founder, Varun Mohan: AI's Biggest Acquisition to Date! · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Insight
Mohan: AI model providers shouldn't over-invest in switching costs early
“In a category that is evolving so quickly, And when the models are improving so quickly, it is actually bad for them to over invest in ways in which they can increase switching costs. That doesn't make sense because let's suppose they did do that, but they mis…”
Varun Mohan Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 49:55 Windsurf CEO & Co-Founder, Varun Mohan: AI's Biggest Acquisition to Date! · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 18, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Osika: Lovable applications generate over $10M ARR for AI model providers
“We looked at, like, the number, this was a few months ago, but we looked at how much Revenue is flowing through the AI from lovable applications. Okay. And it was more than ten million dollars in ARR.”
Anton Osika Aug 18, 2025 ▶ 12:05 Lovable CEO, Anton Osika: The State of Foundation Models, Grok vs OpenAI, and Replit vs Bolt · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 27, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Cahn: Competitive pressures will force all AI model providers to vertically integrate
“I think that competitive pressures will push all of the model providers to spend more time on this and to have teams focused on this. So I think the answer is yes. I do think that this is a trend that is going to be durable.”
David Cahn Oct 27, 2025 ▶ 10:27 Sequoia Partner, David Cahn on Who Wins in AI, Defence & The New $0–$100M Playbook · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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