Howard Marks

Co-Founder and Co-Chairman, Oaktree Capital Management · 1 appearance on the record.

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Howard Marks co-founded Oaktree Capital Management in 1995, building it into a global leader in alternative investments, distressed debt, and high-yield credit. He is widely recognized for his regular investment memos, as well as bestselling books such as The Most Important Thing and Mastering the Market Cycle.

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1 prediction · 6 assertions · 3 opinions · 20 insights · 1 disclosure · every statement was checked. The prediction and assertions are the 7 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 4 are resolved, and 3 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Howard argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported

Marks: Annual S&P 500 returns are almost never between 8% and 12%

“The return on the S&P, which averages 10, is almost never between eight and 12.”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 19:10 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted

Marks: Buying Nifty 50 stocks in 1969 led to 95% losses

“And if you bought those stocks, the day I got to work in September of 69, if you held them tenaciously for five years, you lost about 95% of your money. 95%. Because for many of them, something did go wrong, and for all of them, the price was too high. The P.E…”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 48:09 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

How they sound: not measured why? →

We measure speaking style by listening to the audio itself, and a fair number needs at least 2,000 words from one person on tape we have measured. There is too little of Howard Marks on measured tape to publish a rate. This says nothing about how they speak.

What they said31 Episodes1

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Assertion Not checkable as stated

Marks: Bruce Karsh managed $70B in distressed debt with 90%+ profits

“He's managed about 70 odd billion dollars since 1988 in that field, by far the biggest. And of his total profits and losses, well over 90% are profits, less than 10% are losses.”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 55:09 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Insight

Marks: Exceptional, low-risk returns come from unloved assets, not popular ones

“If you go into a field that everybody likes and they like it a lot and have bid up the price, then your returns are not likely to be high. If they, if you go into a field where everybody else has been blind to the merits and says, I wouldn't touch that with a …”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 55:51 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Insight

Marks: Superior Credit Investing Requires Predicting Default Probabilities Better Than Competitors

“The base, the most important fundamental skill set is predicting the probability of the fault better than other people. That's where if we don't have that, that's the necessary condition for superior performance.”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 1:00:20 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Insight

Howard Marks: Investing success depends on outperforming others, not absolute correctness

“This is a competitive game... You don't have to, it's not a matter of being right or wrong. It's a matter of being more right than the other person or less wrong.”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 1:25:58 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Insight

Marks: History rhymes because human nature changes very slowly

“There are certain themes that re that rhyme from instance to instance in history. And They mostly have to do with human nature. And I think human nature doesn't change incredibly slowly. I mean, when we talk about fight or flight, people will start talking abo…”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 1:35:12 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Insight

Marks: Do not become an investor if you must be right constantly

“If you have to be right all the time, if there's something in your makeup that recall, that says you're going to be unhappy if you're not right all the time, don't become an investor.”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 1:38:02 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Assertion Partly supported

Marks: S&P 500 returned 20% annually in the 1990s and zero in the 2000s

“In the nineties, it returned 20% a year, and in the aughts, it returned zero per year.”

Howard Marks May 4, 2026 ▶ 19:00 Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF · Nikhil Kamath

Appearances (1)

Episode	Date	Speaking time
Howard Marks: AI, Debt vs Equity & The Next 40 Years Of Investing \| Nikhil Kamath \| People	May 4, 2026	1h 12m

Howard Marks

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