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Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steinman: CCP intelligence officials likely access DJI's US topography data
“Like if you don't think that senior CCP Intel officials have the ability to just walk into DJI headquarters and be like, give me everything you know about the topography of the United States. Like, you're smoking crack. They probably have access to it right no…”
Joshua Steinman Mar 17, 2025 ▶ 12:08 Joshua Steinman talks cybersecurity and the vulnerabilities of a digital world.
Opinion
Hays: DeepSeek is China's Next Subsidized Tech Trojan Horse Like TikTok
“I'll go out on a limb to say this is China's next attempt at a DJI TikTok type. Product where, hey, let's basically sell this product in America for way less than it costs. Give it away for free. Try to get a bunch of important, you know, companies using it or…”
Jordi Hays Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 0:44 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Opinion
Coogan: American Drone Makers Cannot Compete Without Sourcing From China
“It's basically impossible to build a competitor to DJI in America just through the American supply chain. Even if you assemble it here, your motors, your batteries, everything's going to come to China.”
John Coogan Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 24:08 DJI Suspicions, Stargate Turmoil, OpenAI Operator, F40 for the Mind
Opinion
Hays: Americans buying DJI drones are effectively deploying a Chinese spy network
“Even, I've tweeted about DJI before, but that, that Americans buying a spy network for China is like the most insane thing.”
Jordi Hays Nov 3, 2024 ▶ 2:01:20 The Secret Billionaire Party (ep6)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steinman: Chinese robotics firms are replicating DJI's US market takeover playbook
“They are absolutely taking that playbook and trying to replicate it as broadly as possible.”
Joshua Steinman Mar 17, 2025 ▶ 11:41 Joshua Steinman talks cybersecurity and the vulnerabilities of a digital world.
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hays: US will get smoked by China on drone manufacturing volume
“In a. Near peer conflict. If drones actually are an important aspect, you know, player in that, we will not be able to compete purely on an output basis. So even if we were to have a better product, say Andrel has a better product than DJI, it just purely on a…”
Jordi Hays Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 1:37:35 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Opinion
Coogan: DJI does not need to steal data because users voluntarily upload footage
“I think that almost the bigger issue is that people are just, they're just voluntarily saying, yes, please up my, upload my footage to the DJI cloud. And they're actually opting in to send the data. So I don't think that they actually have to steal it.”
John Coogan Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 1:06:17 DJI Suspicions, Stargate Turmoil, OpenAI Operator, F40 for the Mind
Assertion Supported
Hays: Individual accidentally gained control of 7,000 DJI vacuums
“There was an individual who accidentally gained control of 7000 DJI vacuums.”
Jordi Hays Feb 24, 2026 ▶ 27:00 Kim K's New Energy Drink, Citrini Discourse Rages On, the $100B Meta-AMD Deal | Diet TBPN
Assertion Partly supported
DJI controls 90% of the global drone market while Autel holds 5%
“DJI has something like 90% of the global market. Autel is roughly five percent.”
Blake Resnick Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 10:52 How This Company Is Transforming 911 Responses With Autonomous Drones | Blake Resnick on TBPN
Opinion
Coogan: DeepSeek Founder Liang Wenfeng Is the Next Frank Wang
“This guy is he's the next Frank Wang.”
John Coogan Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 23:30 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Assertion Partly supported
Coogan: DJI Has a Competitor for Every GoPro Product
“DJI has a competitor to every single GoPro product, but not reversed.”
John Coogan Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 13:42 DJI Suspicions, Stargate Turmoil, OpenAI Operator, F40 for the Mind
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Coogan: The US still lacks an American equivalent to DJI
“We still don't have an American DJI.”
John Coogan Dec 11, 2024 ▶ 52:39 How we became the fastest growing podcast (ep20)
Assertion Supported
Coogan: Anduril's original Anvil drone destroys targets via kinetic impact
“Well, no, no, the original anvil just has just a weight in it, and so it's purely kinetic, and this is the whole story with Polymer figuring out how to shoot down DJI drones, electronic warfare, takeover, and what he realized was that if you just run into it, …”
John Coogan Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 1:09:53 DJI Suspicions, Stargate Turmoil, OpenAI Operator, F40 for the Mind
Assertion Supported
Coogan: DJI Raised $75M From Accel at an $8B Valuation
“They raised seventy five million from Excel and it valued the company at eight billion. So that's less than one percent sold.”
John Coogan Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 20:38 DJI Suspicions, Stargate Turmoil, OpenAI Operator, F40 for the Mind
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