Feb 25, 2026 · 25m · tbpn

Bombshell: Fed Report Says Most Firms See No AI Impact

Donald Trump · 56s spoken
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This episode analyzes the stark divide between Silicon Valley optimism and macroeconomic reality following a Federal Reserve report on muted enterprise AI adoption, while examining emerging political and energy battles surrounding data center infrastructure.

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The hosts as informed peer 6.8 Guest teaching 1.3 Guest disagreement 1.5 The hosts pushing back 1.3
05100:0010:0020:000:00–4:11 · The hosts as informed peer 8/10 Dissecting the Federal Reserve Report on AI Adoption The host demonstrates deep familiarity with the NBER and Atlanta Fed paper, breaking down its cross-country sample and verified CFO methodology versus low-quality online polls. The co-host playfully agrees and reinforces the points.4:11–8:56 · The hosts as informed peer 7/10 Analyzing Survey Findings and Hidden AI Integration The host analyzes survey nuances including hidden SaaS integration like Toast POS and personal versus enterprise AI usage. The dynamic remains collaborative and exploratory.8:56–16:41 · The hosts as informed peer 8/10 Measuring Technology Diffusion and Economic Employment Impact The panelist queries how embedded tools like Ramp count toward usage metrics, and the host contextualizes the divergence between prompt time and leverage output.16:42–18:56 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Applying Neighbor Polling to Corporate AI Adoption The host presents an original concept adapting election neighbor polling to enterprise AI adoption to mitigate executive response bias. The segment is primarily a monologue.18:56–21:51 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Donald Trump Announces the Ratepayer Protection Pledge Following Trump's State of the Union pledge on data center power, the host and co-host collaboratively categorize and rank consumer fears surrounding energy costs versus job displacement.21:53–25:24 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Sponsor Break: Phantom Cash and Figma After brief sponsor reads, the panelist directly challenges the host's thesis that energy bills drive anti-AI protests, arguing demonstrators care far more about IP theft and job displacement.0:00–4:11 · Guest teaching 1/10 Dissecting the Federal Reserve Report on AI Adoption The host demonstrates deep familiarity with the NBER and Atlanta Fed paper, breaking down its cross-country sample and verified CFO methodology versus low-quality online polls. The co-host playfully agrees and reinforces the points.4:11–8:56 · Guest teaching 1/10 Analyzing Survey Findings and Hidden AI Integration The host analyzes survey nuances including hidden SaaS integration like Toast POS and personal versus enterprise AI usage. The dynamic remains collaborative and exploratory.8:56–16:41 · Guest teaching 2/10 Measuring Technology Diffusion and Economic Employment Impact The panelist queries how embedded tools like Ramp count toward usage metrics, and the host contextualizes the divergence between prompt time and leverage output.16:42–18:56 · Guest teaching 0/10 Applying Neighbor Polling to Corporate AI Adoption The host presents an original concept adapting election neighbor polling to enterprise AI adoption to mitigate executive response bias. The segment is primarily a monologue.18:56–21:51 · Guest teaching 1/10 Donald Trump Announces the Ratepayer Protection Pledge Following Trump's State of the Union pledge on data center power, the host and co-host collaboratively categorize and rank consumer fears surrounding energy costs versus job displacement.21:53–25:24 · Guest teaching 3/10 Sponsor Break: Phantom Cash and Figma After brief sponsor reads, the panelist directly challenges the host's thesis that energy bills drive anti-AI protests, arguing demonstrators care far more about IP theft and job displacement.0:00–4:11 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Dissecting the Federal Reserve Report on AI Adoption The host demonstrates deep familiarity with the NBER and Atlanta Fed paper, breaking down its cross-country sample and verified CFO methodology versus low-quality online polls. The co-host playfully agrees and reinforces the points.4:11–8:56 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Analyzing Survey Findings and Hidden AI Integration The host analyzes survey nuances including hidden SaaS integration like Toast POS and personal versus enterprise AI usage. The dynamic remains collaborative and exploratory.8:56–16:41 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Measuring Technology Diffusion and Economic Employment Impact The panelist queries how embedded tools like Ramp count toward usage metrics, and the host contextualizes the divergence between prompt time and leverage output.16:42–18:56 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Applying Neighbor Polling to Corporate AI Adoption The host presents an original concept adapting election neighbor polling to enterprise AI adoption to mitigate executive response bias. The segment is primarily a monologue.18:56–21:51 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Donald Trump Announces the Ratepayer Protection Pledge Following Trump's State of the Union pledge on data center power, the host and co-host collaboratively categorize and rank consumer fears surrounding energy costs versus job displacement.21:53–25:24 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Sponsor Break: Phantom Cash and Figma After brief sponsor reads, the panelist directly challenges the host's thesis that energy bills drive anti-AI protests, arguing demonstrators care far more about IP theft and job displacement.0:00–4:11 · The hosts pushing back 1/10 Dissecting the Federal Reserve Report on AI Adoption The host demonstrates deep familiarity with the NBER and Atlanta Fed paper, breaking down its cross-country sample and verified CFO methodology versus low-quality online polls. The co-host playfully agrees and reinforces the points.4:11–8:56 · The hosts pushing back 1/10 Analyzing Survey Findings and Hidden AI Integration The host analyzes survey nuances including hidden SaaS integration like Toast POS and personal versus enterprise AI usage. The dynamic remains collaborative and exploratory.8:56–16:41 · The hosts pushing back 3/10 Measuring Technology Diffusion and Economic Employment Impact The panelist queries how embedded tools like Ramp count toward usage metrics, and the host contextualizes the divergence between prompt time and leverage output.16:42–18:56 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Applying Neighbor Polling to Corporate AI Adoption The host presents an original concept adapting election neighbor polling to enterprise AI adoption to mitigate executive response bias. The segment is primarily a monologue.18:56–21:51 · The hosts pushing back 1/10 Donald Trump Announces the Ratepayer Protection Pledge Following Trump's State of the Union pledge on data center power, the host and co-host collaboratively categorize and rank consumer fears surrounding energy costs versus job displacement.21:53–25:24 · The hosts pushing back 2/10 Sponsor Break: Phantom Cash and Figma After brief sponsor reads, the panelist directly challenges the host's thesis that energy bills drive anti-AI protests, arguing demonstrators care far more about IP theft and job displacement.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 24:17 Panelist rejects energy cost thesis

The panelist explicitly states he mostly disagrees with the host, arguing protesters focus on environmental damage and job theft rather than demanding power plants first.

Hardest push from the hosts ▶ 12:20 Host clarifies AI workload diffusion

The host pushes back against simplistic quantification, clarifying that AI value diffusion differs fundamentally from the desktop PC era where every workstation had a physical unit.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 14:09 Panelist and co-host deconstruct survey time metric

The panelist and co-host poke holes in survey metrics by asking whether waiting on deep research or reading exported files counts as active model usage.

The host holds their own ▶ 1:20 Host breaks down Fed paper rigor

The host demonstrates superior command of the research by citing the specific Atlanta Fed, NBER, and Bank of England co-authors and distinguishing it from online clickbait.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe hosts as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe hosts pushing backWhy
Dissecting the Federal Reserve Report on AI Adoption 8111 The host demonstrates deep familiarity with the NBER and Atlanta Fed paper, breaking down its cross-country sample and verified CFO methodology versus low-quality online polls. The co-host playfully agrees and reinforces the points.
Analyzing Survey Findings and Hidden AI Integration 7111 The host analyzes survey nuances including hidden SaaS integration like Toast POS and personal versus enterprise AI usage. The dynamic remains collaborative and exploratory.
Measuring Technology Diffusion and Economic Employment Impact 8223 The panelist queries how embedded tools like Ramp count toward usage metrics, and the host contextualizes the divergence between prompt time and leverage output.
Applying Neighbor Polling to Corporate AI Adoption 6000 The host presents an original concept adapting election neighbor polling to enterprise AI adoption to mitigate executive response bias. The segment is primarily a monologue.
Donald Trump Announces the Ratepayer Protection Pledge 6111 Following Trump's State of the Union pledge on data center power, the host and co-host collaboratively categorize and rank consumer fears surrounding energy costs versus job displacement.
Sponsor Break: Phantom Cash and Figma 6342 After brief sponsor reads, the panelist directly challenges the host's thesis that energy bills drive anti-AI protests, arguing demonstrators care far more about IP theft and job displacement.

Statements from this episode (2)

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Trump: Tech Companies Must Build Own Power Plants Under New Pledge
“We're telling the major tech companies that they have the obligation to provide for their own power needs. They can build their own power plants as part of their. Factory so that no one's prices will go up and in many cases prices of electricity will go down f…”
Donald Trump Feb 25, 2026 ▶ 19:13
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Trump: Aging US Power Grid Cannot Handle AI Electricity Demand
“We have an old grid. It could never handle the kind of numbers, the amount of electricity that's needed.”
Donald Trump Feb 25, 2026 ▶ 19:35
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