Ray Fernando and Greg Isenberg compare the API pricing differences between OpenAI's reasoning models and third-party hosting for DeepSeek.
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Fernando: DeepSeek R1 Is Open Source and on Par with OpenAI o1
“Like they've made it open source so that it's available for us to study but it's apparently also on par with ChatGPT's like O-one model, O-one's reasoning models.”
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Fernando: DeepSeek's official apps and website route user data to China
“To start out to use these models, you have a couple of options and one is going directly to deep seek.com and this is actually currently hosted in China. So a little bit of a background here is that your computer is here. Like it was, for example, I'm in North…”
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Fernando: OpenAI o3 launch will likely trigger reasoning model price drops
“Open AI is currently promised that the O three model will come out and the mini model will come out, which would be on par with this model. So that prices will also probably significantly drop as well because they just get more efficient with time.”
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Fernando: GPT-4o natively understands audio and tone, unlike DeepSeek R1
“So one thing I just learned very recently about GPT-IV and ChatGPT's Omni models is the fact that this model's breakthrough, a little bit different than R-I, is the fact that it can actually understand audio and tone and all these extra implications that we do…”
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Fernando: OpenAI's upcoming o3 model will take the industry by storm
“And so it's going to be really exciting when they actually dropped O three. I think a lot of people are going to be taken by storm of like, what's actually really going to come out from them. It's going to be a really, really big leap.”
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Fernando: Cursor serves DeepSeek via Fireworks API, avoiding China-hosted servers
“One of my favorite apps for coding is actually Cursor. And I asked them, hey, where do you have your DeepSeq model hosted? And they told me they use the Fireworks API. And that's, you know, actually not in China. So that's great. So it's like, okay, cool. That…”