Q so then, you know, so, so you've got this access that basically you're like, hey, um, you know, oh, I'm shooting for this little newspaper. You get the laminate, you get the access. Um, how do you distinguish yourself? Because, That's one way. So you got, you got that access, but how do you distinguish yourself from that to going to a paying job to, to, to creating a career?
A Right. Well, the first thing I did was I, you know, like I didn't ever assist anyone. I didn't really go to school. I started shooting snowboarding at 15. I grew up in Saudi Arabia for four years from the ages of like third grade to seventh grade. I traveled to 50 countries. My father's hobby was photography. So I picked up the camera at a really young age. I moved back to Northern California, you know, went to seventh, eighth grade, snowboarding, sport of snowboarding was birth. It started when I was, you know, in eighth grade with the Woody, the wood snowboard, Burton Woody, and me and one of my high school close friends, Justin Hosnack, his dad gave him his college tuition money, and we started the first snowboarding calendar. Like, we published the calendar. I still, I did three quarters of the photographs, You know, he took care of the business side. First year, we lost money. Second year, we broke even. Third year, started making money. And I was going to Europe. I mean, the two of us, he was from, he's, you know, Swiss-German, sort of from Europe, so his parents, like, the two of us were going to Europe at 16 years old. Like, just getting fucked up, two going to, like, it was fun. It was great, but it was, it's always a different time, you know, but it's not a different time. It's just like, I, I, when I was young, we would go to Hong Kong, and I was in I was 12 years ol…
AI assessment note: “we started the first snowboarding calendar... Third year, started making money.”