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Kumar: India will have 1,000 or more unicorns within a decade
“Oh, it's maybe even more. I'm extremely bullish, right?”
Kumar: Online retail brokerages lack strong economies of scale
“I think in our industry also, the relationship is with the customer, you know, and what I mean by that is there's not really so much economies of scale.”
Kumar: India's market cap could reach $15T in 10-20 years
“India today has, you know, about three, three and a half trillion dollars of publicly traded market cap. You know, and we think that in these next 1015, 20 years, that number could be like fifteen billion. 15 trillion dollars.”
Kumar: Most founders lack the maturity to turn unprofitable businesses profitable
“So I think again every, every founder won't have the maturity, I think, to be able to run, you know, An operation unprofitably and still at some point become profitable. The knowledge and the know-how of doing that is very difficult.”
Kumar: Upstox to achieve 25% to 30% PAT margin this fiscal year
“No, we're pretty much already that. Right. We're already you know, almost there, but yeah, by the end of the FYI, I think throughout the whole year, we'll, we'll probably be like a 25, 30% path business.”
Kumar: Upstox was the first Indian broker to digitize with Aadhaar
“So we were the first broker to digitize when Adhar launched.”
Kumar: Retail investors account for only about 20% of Indian market volume
“And of this, right, it's not like all of this volume is coming from like retail at all. I think retail from the latest numbers I know is about 20%.”
Kumar: Co-location prop trading firms generate 50% of NSE derivative volume
“In fact, in the world of like futures and options trading, derivatives trading, the majority comes from what's called co-location. Which is the exchanges have their own data centers where a lot of these you know, big prop trading firms set up shop. And you kno…”
Kumar: Over 90% of Upstox Users Are First-Time Demat Account Holders
“90% plus of our accounts are first time investors, meaning they've never opened up a DMAT account before. OpStox is their first platform of choice for opening up a DMAT account.”
Kumar: Companies will start going public earlier at ₹1,000–1,500 crore revenue
“But I think now the trend is reversing will, where you'll start seeing companies going public when they maybe hit a thousand crores revenue or 15, 1500 crores revenue, et cetera.”
Kumar: MSCI India was among top three performing country indexes globally
“So MSCI India has done, I think it's one of the top three MSCI countries in the world and the past 2025 years.”
Upstox targets 100 million customers over the next five to seven years
“Our ambition is a hundred million customers over these next five, six, seven years.”
Kumar: Indian equity market participation sits around 6%
“And I think all of our jobs, you know, as combined is just to increase equity participation. It's at around six percent right now.”
Kumar: India has roughly 80 million demat accounts
“I think there's a shot of eighty million if I'm not mistaken.”
Kumar: Aadhaar integration boosted Upstox monthly account growth 5x
“That same month we went from opening up like 200 accounts a month to opening up a thousand accounts a month.”
Kumar: Upstox has about 11M accounts out of 80M Indian demat accounts
“So out of the entire base of 80 odd million, I think there is up stocks is about eleven million customers.”
Kumar: Major Indian discount brokers each have sub-15M accounts
“Like all of us, I think would be sub-fifteen million.”
Kumar: NSE controls 90% of Indian cash equities and 99% of derivatives
“One is the cash equity markets. Of that, I think NSE does like 90%. There's the futures and options equity markets the derivative markets of that NSE in the past has had like a 99% market share, but the BSE is now starting to make some significant inroads as l…”
Kumar: Indian equity participation tripled from sub-2% to roughly 6%
“So when we first came to India in like 2000 eight-ish equity participation in India, which is basically the number of people in India that have DMAT accounts was like sub-two percent. In 2012, when we started the retail business was again, sub two percent. In …”
Kumar: 90-95% of Upstox accounts come from Tier 2 and 3 India
“90, 90, 95% of our accounts are, you know, coming from tier two, tier three India.”
Kumar: Future Indian Equity Growth Will Come From Small Towns and Youth
“So as we You know, go from six percent equity participation in 1015, 20. A large, large portion of this growth is going to come from the smaller towns, right? And younger people that are joining they're opening it, they're starting their journey in, you know, …”
Kumar: Average Age of New Upstox Users Is Under 28
“And I think almost year on year, the average age of an account also keeps dropping. Right. So we're like at sub, sub-twenty-six years of age now as an average you know, account being opened up.”